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Re: Newsgroup Nazi
| Franc Zabkar | 18 Mar 2005 21:43 |
>>>Notice that Ippolito took it upon _himself_ to stop a legal >>>transmission which I'm paying good money to supposedly be able to do. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >Just because your ISP doesn't carry sbcglobal.help.tech.newsgroups >doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That's not the point. If you had crossposted to 100 newsgroups, then nearly everybody who responded to your message (who was an Agent user) would have had their reply bounce.
>>If I were testing my Usenet access, I'd just send a regular message, >>or reply to an existing thread. If the message doesn't appear in my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Yeah, goos idea. That makes it _really_ convenient for whoever's >pushing you into the oven. Standards exist for a good reason. For example, I like to drive on the left side of the road, but when I visit the USA I defer to local custom. Sometimes there really is no room for individual expression ...
BTW, you are not alone with your NG problems. Many years ago I was with an ISP called OneNet. NoneNet had not allocated enough disc capacity to their Usenet service, which meant that more often than not I was unable to post messages. When my posts did go through, they were not being relayed to the wider Internet, which meant that only other NoneNet users were seeing them. A visit to the Usenet archives at DejaNews confirmed my suspicions.
- Franc Zabkar
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| John Fields | 18 Mar 2005 00:29 |
>>Notice that Ippolito took it upon _himself_ to stop a legal >>transmission which I'm paying good money to supposedly be able to do. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I have no problem with that, it just sounds like a bit of friendly >advice to me. --- Friendly advice is one thing, blocking a legitimate post is quite another. ---
>He's merely restating accepted Usenet practice. --- No, accepted Usenet practice is _not_ cancelling a post because of a breach of netiquette. ---
>BTW, it's also considered bad netiquette to crosspost excessively (I had to >resend this message because of "non-existent newsgroups"). --- Just because your ISP doesn't carry sbcglobal.help.tech.newsgroups doesn't mean it doesn't exist. ---
>If I were testing my Usenet access, I'd just send a regular message, >or reply to an existing thread. If the message doesn't appear in my >normal newsfeed, then I'd look for it at Google Groups. BTW, I don't >necessarily agree with all the netiquette guidelines, but I observe >them anyway. I reckon if I can annoy the least number of people my >life will be a lot easier. --- Yeah, goos idea. That makes it _really_ convenient for whoever's pushing you into the oven.
 Signature John Fields
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| Franc Zabkar | 17 Mar 2005 21:26 |
>Notice that Ippolito took it upon _himself_ to stop a legal >transmission which I'm paying good money to supposedly be able to do. > >What do y'all think about that? I have no problem with that, it just sounds like a bit of friendly advice to me. He's merely restating accepted Usenet practice. BTW, it's also considered bad netiquette to crosspost excessively (I had to resend this message because of "non-existent newsgroups").
If I were testing my Usenet access, I'd just send a regular message, or reply to an existing thread. If the message doesn't appear in my normal newsfeed, then I'd look for it at Google Groups. BTW, I don't necessarily agree with all the netiquette guidelines, but I observe them anyway. I reckon if I can annoy the least number of people my life will be a lot easier.
- Franc Zabkar
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| John Fields | 17 Mar 2005 16:12 |
I've had a DSL line for a year or so, supplied by SBC Internet Services, and I'm really pleased with it. I was using another ISP for outgoing email and news, and yesterday I decided to save a few bucks by dropping the other ISP and running everything through SWB. No problem; everything worked fine except the connection to Usenet, through Prodigy, which was (is) so crappy that I didn't see any new posts on sed or abse for hours after I hooked up with prodigy's news server.
So, I thought, maybe something's wrong on my end. In order to check it out I decided to send some test posts to see if they'd make it through, and here's what I found in my inbox shortly after that:
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FYI, Please be advised that posting tests to discussion groups is considered poor netiquette. There are test groups set aside for posting tests. Please retry your test to sbcglobal.test, or alt.test. For binary test posts please use alt.test.binaries. All unmoderated groups work the same way so if a post works to a test group it should work in any group. On the rare occasion where a test must be made to a discussion group, please post a short on-topic message as your test. Your test post would have been successful had it not been filtered out. If you are having problems with or questions regarding newsgroups please post your concerns to;
news://sbcglobal.help.tech.newsgroups
or email news-support@sbcglobal.net
Common problems and fixes may be found at;
http://newsgroups.news.prodigy.com
Thank You,
 Signature Tom Ippolito Newsgroups System Administrator SBC Services ippolitot@prodigy.net
<END QUOTE>
Notice that Ippolito took it upon _himself_ to stop a legal transmission which I'm paying good money to supposedly be able to do.
What do y'all think about that?
-- John Fields
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