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Re: uP/uC Floating Pins?

Michael A. Terrell11 Mar 2010 23:55
> >> Read the data sheet.
>
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> Ask the guy who told you about the chip?
> Use another chip.

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Hal Murray11 Mar 2010 22:11
>> Read the data sheet.

>   What if it hasn't been written yet?

Why are you designing something for a chip that doesn't exist?

Ask the guy who is trying to sell you the chip?
Ask the guy who told you about the chip?
Use another chip.

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Michael A. Terrell11 Mar 2010 20:25
> >I guess I could be driven by an I/O pin.  Is it possible to program
> >those as a "LOW" during POR?
>
> Read the data sheet.

  What if it hasn't been written yet?

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Hal Murray11 Mar 2010 19:28
>I guess I could be driven by an I/O pin.  Is it possible to program
>those as a "LOW" during POR?

Read the data sheet.

In general, the junk I/O pins float.  You can't "program" them
from software during reset because the software isn't running yet.

Some chips look at a few input pins to select a mode.  Some modes
might drive some pins.

The normal trick is to add a weak pulldown if you need a
particular floating signal to be low during reset.

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Jim Thompson11 Mar 2010 19:11
>> When a uP or uC is exercising its POR cycle, what are the states of
>> the output pins?  Floating, or held low, or what?
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>You do mean _output_ pins, not general purpose I/O that might be
>configured for either input or output -- right?

I guess I could be driven by an I/O pin.  Is it possible to program
those as a "LOW" during POR?
       
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Tim Wescott11 Mar 2010 17:07
> When a uP or uC is exercising its POR cycle, what are the states of
> the output pins?  Floating, or held low, or what?
>
> Particularly if it's recovering from a brown-out that caused POR to be
> exerted.

You do mean _output_ pins, not general purpose I/O that might be
configured for either input or output -- right?

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Jim Thompson11 Mar 2010 16:42
When a uP or uC is exercising its POR cycle, what are the states of
the output pins?  Floating, or held low, or what?

Particularly if it's recovering from a brown-out that caused POR to be
exerted.
       
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