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Re: Electronic Rust Protection Device
| christofire | 16 Dec 2008 17:32 |
>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:13:36 -0000, "ian field" - snip -
> This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms > air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I have a bridge for sale ! Do you have those 'water conditioners' in your neck of the woods that are claimed to work 'by altering the crystallisation behaviour of Calcium and Magnesium ions' that would otherwise scale-up your pipes and boiler? Things like http://www.freescale.co.uk/ and http://www.littleplumber.com/.
Some of them have a pair of open-ended wires emanating from a box of 'electronics' that are meant to be wrapped around a water pipe - even a copper one. A 'consumers' guide' to these things (http://www.britishwater.co.uk/Document/Download.aspx?uid=ee36c54e-925e-4b64-b732 -b7b13aa6a638) says: 'It is acknowledged that in some circumstances conditioners do not work or are not as effective as expected. It is therefore important that, as with all domestic products, the type of conditioner that is purchased comes with a manufacturer's performance-linked money-back guarantee' ... but, of course, they don't and the documentation that comes with these things doesn't actually say anything that can be tested.
Where I used to work, we acquired a wall-mounted water boiler for making cups of tea (!) which used to scale up badly so one of these things was fitted by the local 'handymen'. The boiler scaled up just as badly. Later we went back to using a kettle (!!) and opened up the case of the 'water conditioner' to find little more than a couple of 555s.
Chris
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| clanker | 16 Dec 2008 02:19 |
>>>> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in >>>> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > How pue is the HWS magnesium anode? In both the water heater and the outboard case the cathodic protection has a circuit return through the water.
This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich quick" masturbation exercise.
The OP might scam some idjits at eBay like his mates do with '12 Volt electric superchargers', and 'combustion-ehnancing swirl plates' which claim a 30% decrease in fuel consumption...the sellers only need a few fools a day to survive quite nicely.
"Sophisticated electronics" includes some coloured wire and a mounting screw.
I have a bridge for sale !
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| K Ludger | 16 Dec 2008 02:04 |
>>> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in >>> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Franc Zabkar Sort of OT, AFAIK outboard motors use a zinc anode.
How pue is the HWS magnesium anode?
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| Franc Zabkar | 15 Dec 2008 19:19 |
>> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in >> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a >> protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This >> protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating >> readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are >> taken, leaving the steel intact.
>Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial >electrode. Has anyone ever seen any rust prevention device in a domestic hot water system other than a magnesium anode?
- Franc Zabkar
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| ian field | 15 Dec 2008 16:13 |
> Dealers Required RUST STOP Device. > Dear Sir, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44 > fuelex@live.com Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial electrode.
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| fuelex@gmail.com | 15 Dec 2008 10:42 |
Dealers Required RUST STOP Device. Dear Sir,
The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are taken, leaving the steel intact.
No Extra Pads. No Extra Wiring. With digital Display for Showing the Battery Voltages. Bottom Side of the Device is working itself as a strong Anodic Pad.
Installation very easy just Connect the battery terminals and fix the ECC device at suitable place.
Mr. Jamil Ahmed. Export Manager Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44 fuelex@live.com
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