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Re: Electronic Rust Protection Device

christofire16 Dec 2008 17:32
>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:13:36 -0000, "ian field"

- snip -

> This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms
> air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> I have a bridge for sale !

Do you have those 'water conditioners' in your neck of the woods that are
claimed to work 'by altering the crystallisation behaviour of Calcium and
Magnesium ions' that would otherwise scale-up your pipes and boiler?  Things
like http://www.freescale.co.uk/ and http://www.littleplumber.com/.

Some of them have a pair of open-ended wires emanating from a box of
'electronics' that are meant to be wrapped around a water pipe - even a
copper one.  A 'consumers' guide' to these things
(http://www.britishwater.co.uk/Document/Download.aspx?uid=ee36c54e-925e-4b64-b732
-b7b13aa6a638
)
says: 'It is acknowledged that in some circumstances conditioners do not
work or are not as effective as expected. It is therefore important that, as
with all domestic products, the type of conditioner that is purchased comes
with a manufacturer's performance-linked money-back guarantee' ... but, of
course, they don't and the documentation that comes with these things
doesn't actually say anything that can be tested.

Where I used to work, we acquired a wall-mounted water boiler for making
cups of tea (!) which used to scale up badly so one of these things was
fitted by the local 'handymen'.  The boiler scaled up just as badly.  Later
we went back to using a kettle (!!) and opened up the case of the 'water
conditioner' to find little more than a couple of 555s.

Chris

clanker16 Dec 2008 02:19
>>>> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in
>>>> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> How pue is the HWS magnesium anode?

In both the water heater and the outboard case the cathodic protection
has a circuit return through the water.

This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms
air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich
quick" masturbation exercise.

The OP might scam some idjits at eBay like his mates do with '12 Volt
electric superchargers', and 'combustion-ehnancing swirl plates' which
claim a 30% decrease in fuel consumption...the sellers only need a few
fools a day to survive quite nicely.

"Sophisticated electronics" includes some coloured wire and a mounting
screw.

I have a bridge for sale !

K Ludger16 Dec 2008 02:04
>>> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in
>>> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> - Franc Zabkar

Sort of OT, AFAIK outboard motors use a zinc anode.

How pue is the HWS magnesium anode?

Franc Zabkar15 Dec 2008 19:19
>> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in
>> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a
>> protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This
>> protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating
>> readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are
>> taken, leaving the steel intact.

>Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial
>electrode.

Has anyone ever seen any rust prevention device in a domestic hot
water system other than a magnesium anode?

- Franc Zabkar
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ian field15 Dec 2008 16:13
> Dealers Required RUST STOP Device.
> Dear Sir,
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44
> fuelex@live.com

Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial
electrode.

fuelex@gmail.com15 Dec 2008 10:42
Dealers Required RUST STOP Device.
Dear Sir,

The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in
the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a
protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This
protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating
readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are
taken, leaving the steel intact.

No Extra Pads.
No Extra Wiring.
With digital Display for Showing the Battery Voltages.
Bottom Side of the Device is working itself as a strong Anodic Pad.

Installation very easy just Connect the battery terminals and fix the
ECC device at suitable place.

Mr. Jamil Ahmed.
Export Manager
Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44
fuelex@live.com

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