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Re: Power generation system. Part 2
| Terry Given | 28 Jul 2005 11:01 |
>>>>>Just wondering mate, what brand of inverter are you thining of going >>>>>for? [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Most of those are features I am used to seeing in a commercial (i.e. not > domestic) UPS. some of them you wont find in commercial UPS either :) Yet...
> However review for a moment your 3:1 peak:average capability. Peak is > determined largely by current handling in the semis. Average is more determined > by thermal factors. yep.
> I can turn a 2:1 into a 3:1 very cheaply - by removing part of the heatsink. > One needs to be rather careful specifying such a ratio unless the average power > output capability is also defined adequately. ROTFLMAO! nicely put. Say Pcont = 3kW.
Cheers Terry
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| budgie | 28 Jul 2005 10:57 |
>>>> Just wondering mate, what brand of inverter are you thining of going >>>> for? [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >- simple yet useful user interface (small LCD, a few buttons) >- optional bypass contactor Most of those are features I am used to seeing in a commercial (i.e. not domestic) UPS.
However review for a moment your 3:1 peak:average capability. Peak is determined largely by current handling in the semis. Average is more determined by thermal factors.
I can turn a 2:1 into a 3:1 very cheaply - by removing part of the heatsink. One needs to be rather careful specifying such a ratio unless the average power output capability is also defined adequately.
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| Terry Given | 28 Jul 2005 08:40 |
>>> Just wondering mate, what brand of inverter are you thining of going >>> for? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It is very efficient though - even at low levels (<50W). > Alan What features would you look for in a "pure" sinewave inverter? what features would you like?
Here's what I think:
- true sinewave (even at no load) - line interactive - fully regenerative (eats motor loads etc) - low (ideally no) EMI. Run an AM radio sitting on top of it... - doesnt care which wires go to the grid, which to the load (alas, it does care about which go to the battery) - IP66/IP68 (run the sucker underwater...) - drop it from 1m and give it a good boot while its running (wont die) - programmable input PF -1...+1 (IOW can do VAR compensation) - input can act as harmonic filter - failsafe (fully fused, thermal modelling/monitoring etc) - no inrush current - sub-cycle brownout/dropout detection - bumpless power transfer - optically isolated comms link - user serviceable cooling fan - liquid cooling option - 3:1 peak to average power ratio - > 20kHz switching frequency (inaudible) - single- & three-phase models - wide range of battery voltages (12-24-48V) - built-in battery condition monitoring - simple yet useful user interface (small LCD, a few buttons) - optional bypass contactor
Cheers Terry
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| Alan Peake | 28 Jul 2005 07:27 |
>>Just wondering mate, what brand of inverter are you thining of going for? > > **I have yet to determine that. If anyone has a suggestion, I would be all > ears. Here is my source: If you want a quiet RF environment, some "pure" sinewave inverters put out a bit of RF. Mine (SEA Voyager) puts an S5 signal on some of the amateur bands. Can be suppressed of course - but that's more work. It is very efficient though - even at low levels (<50W). Alan
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| Trevor Wilson | 27 Jul 2005 19:48 |
> Just wondering mate, what brand of inverter are you thining of going for? **I have yet to determine that. If anyone has a suggestion, I would be all ears. Here is my source:
http://www.quirks.com.au/
 Signature Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| Joe | 27 Jul 2005 10:34 |
Just wondering mate, what brand of inverter are you thining of going for?
> >> After some investigation, I've decided to CONSIDER a completely different > >> approach to a petrol, or diesel generator. I can buy a 3kVA inverter for [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > Trevor Wilson > www.rageaudio.com.au |
| Trevor Wilson | 27 Jul 2005 10:24 |
>> After some investigation, I've decided to CONSIDER a completely different >> approach to a petrol, or diesel generator. I can buy a 3kVA inverter for [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > What about hydrogen fuel cells? **What about consumables?
> Last forever, no batteries required. > > The way of the future. **Perhaps. However, I am searching for a practical, reasonably priced, doable (right now) technology.
 Signature Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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| Sam | 27 Jul 2005 10:14 |
> After some investigation, I've decided to CONSIDER a completely different > approach to a petrol, or diesel generator. I can buy a 3kVA inverter for [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Any thoughts and suggestions will be appreciated. What about hydrogen fuel cells?
Last forever, no batteries required.
The way of the future.
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| Trevor Wilson | 27 Jul 2005 06:24 |
After some investigation, I've decided to CONSIDER a completely different approach to a petrol, or diesel generator. I can buy a 3kVA inverter for about $3k and some Solar cells (10 X 115Watt panels) for another $8k. The gummint gives me back $4k (yay!). I have plenty of easily accessible (<2 Metres from ground level), flat, unshaded roof space for the panels. I can buy a second hand, refurbished, 24V 1kA/Hr battery for another $2k.Not only should I be able to generate all the power I require, but, for a few extra Bucks, I can feed the surplus back into the mains and make a little profit (double YAY!). No neighbour problems and get to have a warm, fuzzy, green feeling. A win all 'round.
Any thoughts and suggestions will be appreciated.
 Signature Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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