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GregS - 21 Jul 2009 15:24 GMT
Wondering if anyone is familiar with this series. I was
testing it out and the bias circuitry is not
functioning. There is shown on the schematic a bias transistor
along with one diode and pot.
There is no bias transistor on the two stages, just looks
like one diode. I intend on adding a diode or two to get it going.

There is a place on the boards for the transistor, but it was never there.

greg
GregS - 21 Jul 2009 21:16 GMT
>Wondering if anyone is familiar with this series. I was
>testing it out and the bias circuitry is not
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>There is a place on the boards for the transistor, but it was never there.

Just to clarify. You can see the holes in the board for the transistor, but the copper
is solid on the back plane. I don't figure how it could have worked right
from the factory. The diode under the driver heatsink seems normal, about
6 volt drop. I might need at least 4 diodes in addition to the one.
H709 is MISSING.

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greg
David Farber - 21 Jul 2009 21:47 GMT
>> Wondering if anyone is familiar with this series. I was
>> testing it out and the bias circuitry is not
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> greg

If both channels are missing that transistor, and one of them works
properly, then it probably was meant to be like that. You can see in the
schematic that there is still a path from the base of H713 to the base of
H714. If anything,  H709 would lessen the voltage between the two points and
decrease the bias even more. What is the reference number of the diode which
you say has a 6 volt drop?

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GregS - 22 Jul 2009 14:11 GMT
>>> Wondering if anyone is familiar with this series. I was
>>> testing it out and the bias circuitry is not
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>decrease the bias even more. What is the reference number of the diode which
>you say has a 6 volt drop?

Neither channel has any current. point 6   .6 volt.
I'll check on the diode specs.

greg
David Farber - 21 Jul 2009 21:39 GMT
> Wondering if anyone is familiar with this series. I was
> testing it out and the bias circuitry is not
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> greg

I found a service bulletin from 10/29/1975 that may or may not have an
effect on your problem. If your serial number is below US 7701 or Europe
51001, replace diode H720 and diode H721 with a 1S1555. When you say the
bias circuitry is not functioning, do you mean there is zero bias current?
It is supposed to be 10mv from TP701-TP702 and TP703-TP704.

Good luck.
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GregS - 22 Jul 2009 14:20 GMT
>> Wondering if anyone is familiar with this series. I was
>> testing it out and the bias circuitry is not
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>Good luck.

H720 and H721 are for the bias of a couple stages back. I'll
check that out too.

greg
GregS - 27 Jul 2009 13:59 GMT
>>> Wondering if anyone is familiar with this series. I was
>>> testing it out and the bias circuitry is not
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>H720 and H721 are for the bias of a couple stages back. I'll
>check that out too.

One mystery solved. There is a bias transistor. Its hidden under one driver
heatsink. There are two positions for it on the board. One
away from the heatsink. That position I first saw is vacant.

So far a bad pot on one channel is the only thing I have found wrong.
I still have to figure why the bias on the other channel is
not working.

greg
William Sommerwerck - 27 Jul 2009 15:36 GMT
> One mystery solved. There is a bias transistor. It's hidden
> under one driver heatsink. There are two positions for it on
> the board, one away from the heatsink. That position I first
> saw is vacant.

> So far a bad pot on one channel is the only thing I have
> found wrong. I still have to figure why the bias on the other
> channel is not working.

Doesn't each output stage have its own bias transistor?
GregS - 27 Jul 2009 16:02 GMT
>> One mystery solved. There is a bias transistor. It's hidden
>> under one driver heatsink. There are two positions for it on
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>
>Doesn't each output stage have its own bias transistor?

Right. There are seaparate assemblies.

I was fixing some Sansui integrateds some years ago. A particular series
had a resistor that would change value and screw up the bias. It
was an esy fix, except for the conductive glue on the power supply
board.

greg
 
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