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Paul - 31 Jul 2008 01:40 GMT

I have a Philips CD960 CD player which has been in storage for a while
(okay, eight years). The rubber belts in the transport have hardened
and stretched and need to be replaced. Does anyone know of a source
for these parts? Philips service here in the U.S. doesn't seem to
even know that such a piece of equipment ever existed. Any help
appreciated!

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nobody > - 31 Jul 2008 03:19 GMT

> I have a Philips CD960 CD player which has been in storage for a while
> (okay, eight years). The rubber belts in the transport have hardened
> and stretched and need to be replaced. Does anyone know of a source
> for these parts? Philips service here in the U.S. doesn't seem to
> even know that such a piece of equipment ever existed. Any help
> appreciated!

Projector-Recorder Belt Co.

www.prbline.com/

or

If the belt is round or square, it can be replaced with a rubber O-ring.
Take the old one with you and get something about 10-20% smaller in
circumference. When I was doing AV repairs years ago, we'd get most of
our round "belts" as o-rings for diesel engines from the Caterpillar
dealer down the road. They were about half the price of belts from PRB.

Flat belts however are best done thru PRB.

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Brian Sandle - 31 Jul 2008 03:59 GMT

An old Hitachi electric drill as part of a set with many attachments had
a wrongly wired plug.

This is in New Zealand where the phase is the slanting pin socket on the
left. The sealed Hitachi plug attached to this faulty drill had the red
wire connected to the right hand pin as it is pushed in.

(Fault was less than tight brush scews)

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Arfa Daily - 31 Jul 2008 09:18 GMT

> An old Hitachi electric drill as part of a set with many attachments had a
> wrongly wired plug.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> (Fault was less than tight brush scews)

As far as I've always understood it, 'polarity' on two-wire double insulated
equipment, is more a matter of convention than safety, from a punter point
of view. Not quite the same for the service engineer who has to get inside
the equipment, where he will quite reasonably expect any power line fuses,
or single pole switches, to be in the live (phase) wire, rather than the
neutral.

There may be other issues - all my electrical theory was learnt at college a
long time ago, and by experience over the years - but I don't think that
there is a lot of (electrically practical) difference between a drill motor,
a light bulb, and a piece of kit with a transformer based power supply.

Inexcusable really of the manufacturer to wire it wrongly, but I have seen
many times, the two pin non-polarised europlug (thinking about it, there you
go - two pin, non-polarised) fitted to Aiwa hifis, inserted theoretically
backwards into the UK 13A permanent adaptor head, that they fit before
shipping the item out to the UK, so clearly, they don't think it's an issue.

Arfa

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Franc Zabkar - 31 Jul 2008 22:53 GMT

>> An old Hitachi electric drill as part of a set with many attachments had a
>> wrongly wired plug.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>or single pole switches, to be in the live (phase) wire, rather than the
>neutral.

I'm seeing a lot of this kind of PSU wiring in DVD players these days:
http://www.users.on.net/~fzabkar/DVD/TDR250HD/Photos/PSU.jpg

One 2-pin plug connects to the mains, the other to a single pole power
switch. By interchanging the plugs you can either switch and fuse the
active lead, or switch and fuse the neutral lead. If you switch the
active lead, then the case potential drops to 0V. If you switch the
neutral, then the RF suppression caps elevate the case to full mains
potential, albeit harmlessly. However, the resultant tingle can cause
some consternation among consumers, and consequently some PR problems
for manufacturers.

- Franc Zabkar

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Eeyore - 31 Jul 2008 22:55 GMT

> > An old Hitachi electric drill as part of a set with many attachments had a
> > wrongly wired plug.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> backwards into the UK 13A permanent adaptor head, that they fit before
> shipping the item out to the UK, so clearly, they don't think it's an issue.

For Class II (double insulated) it should not be.

Graham

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Arfa Daily - 01 Aug 2008 00:24 GMT

>> > An old Hitachi electric drill as part of a set with many attachments
>> > had a
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> Graham

As I said I believed to be the case, also. But with the reservations
regarding engineer safety, when the covers are off ( although it should be
on a bench isolation transformer for open-case work, of course ... )

Arfa

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Dave Plowman (News) - 31 Jul 2008 11:16 GMT

> An old Hitachi electric drill as part of a set with many attachments had
> a wrongly wired plug.

> This is in New Zealand where the phase is the slanting pin socket on the
> left. The sealed Hitachi plug attached to this faulty drill had the red
> wire connected to the right hand pin as it is pushed in.

> (Fault was less than tight brush scews)

Reversing line and neutral won't stop a drill working.

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PeterD - 31 Jul 2008 13:28 GMT

>> An old Hitachi electric drill as part of a set with many attachments had
>> a wrongly wired plug.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Reversing line and neutral won't stop a drill working.

No, but it will make Brian post to SER about it. That's a powerful
effect in its own!

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nobody > - 31 Jul 2008 19:49 GMT

>> An old Hitachi electric drill as part of a set with many attachments had
>> a wrongly wired plug.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Reversing line and neutral won't stop a drill working.

And all (AFAIK) recent power tools, especially drills have double
insulation.

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Kendra Weissbein - 31 Jul 2008 20:04 GMT

>> An old Hitachi electric drill as part of a set with many attachments had
>> a wrongly wired plug.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Reversing line and neutral won't stop a drill working.

Reversing line and neutral also won't stop Nicole Bischoff from screaming
when you take the wires out of the drill and hook them up to her sloppy
c.nt.

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PeterD - 31 Jul 2008 13:27 GMT

>An old Hitachi electric drill as part of a set with many attachments had
>a wrongly wired plug.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>(Fault was less than tight brush scews)

That's good, thanks for telling the whole world.

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Stacey Chuffo - 01 Aug 2008 00:41 GMT

>I have a Philips CD960 CD player which has been in storage for a while
> (okay, eight years). The rubber belts in the transport have hardened
> and stretched and need to be replaced. Does anyone know of a source
> for these parts? Philips service here in the U.S. doesn't seem to
> even know that such a piece of equipment ever existed. Any help
> appreciated!

Throw it in the trash. It probably doesn't even play MP3s.

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Philips CD960 transport belts?