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seeking audio adaptor mini xlr - jack

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tg - 20 Sep 2007 11:45 GMT
Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
microtrack.
pictures here: http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/mike/
I've tried studiospares, shure, m-audio, no luck. I'll make an adpator
if I have to but I'd rather buy a ready made one. Thanks for any help.
Eeyore - 20 Sep 2007 12:14 GMT
> Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
> mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
> microtrack.
> pictures here: http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/mike/
> I've tried studiospares, shure, m-audio, no luck. I'll make an adpator
> if I have to but I'd rather buy a ready made one. Thanks for any help.

What's normally on the end of the lead rather than a 1/4" jack ?

Graham
John Fields - 20 Sep 2007 12:57 GMT
>Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
>mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
>microtrack.
>pictures here: http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/mike/
>I've tried studiospares, shure, m-audio, no luck. I'll make an adpator
>if I have to but I'd rather buy a ready made one. Thanks for any help.

Try Switchcraft:

http://www.switchcraft.com/

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Richard Crowley - 20 Sep 2007 13:34 GMT
> Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
> mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
> microtrack.
> pictures here: http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/mike/
> I've tried studiospares, shure, m-audio, no luck. I'll make an adpator
> if I have to but I'd rather buy a ready made one. Thanks for any help.

You will need a custom-made adapter that will take
the phantom power supplied by the MicroTrack and
convert it to the voltage required by the microphone.
AFAIK, this is not available as a commercial item,
although is it not rocket-surgery.
Arny Krueger - 20 Sep 2007 13:48 GMT
> Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure
> lavalier mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> make an adpator if I have to but I'd rather buy a ready
> made one. Thanks for any help.

I'm not sure that a passive solution is possible. Offhand, the Microtrack
probably supplies only a volt or two of bias, while the Shure lavs require
about 12 volts.
Arny Krueger - 20 Sep 2007 14:50 GMT
>> Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure
>> lavalier mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Offhand, the Microtrack probably supplies only a volt or
> two of bias, while the Shure lavs require about 12 volts.

Of course since the Microtrack provides phantom power, the Shure RPM 628
will bridge the gap.

http://www.shure.com/ProAudio/Products/Accessories/us_pro_RPM628_content
Scott Dorsey - 20 Sep 2007 15:10 GMT
>Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
>mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
>microtrack.
>pictures here: http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/mike/
>I've tried studiospares, shure, m-audio, no luck. I'll make an adpator
>if I have to but I'd rather buy a ready made one. Thanks for any help.

mike --------------------+---------------]|----------   to preamp
                        |             10 uF            unbalanced in
                        \
                        /
                        \ 2.2K ohms
                        |
                        |
                       ---
                        -    9V battery
                        |
gnd  --------------------+---------------------------- gnd

I don't offhand know which polarity the battery needs to be.  I believe
with the Shure mikes they need to have positive power.

Before doing this, first make sure the 1/4" input has enough gain in the
first place to deal with a mike level signal.
--scott
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Richard Crowley - 20 Sep 2007 16:40 GMT
> Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
> mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
> microtrack.
> pictures here: http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/mike/
> I've tried studiospares, shure, m-audio, no luck. I'll make an adpator if
> I have to but I'd rather buy a ready made one. Thanks for any help.

You have ~30V available out of the 1/4-inch connectors
on the MT2496.  You need to establish exactly what is
the pinout and power requirements for your microphone.

The required circuit is *SOMETHING LIKE* this one...
http://www.uneeda-audio.com/phantom/p48t122.jpg
which converts P48 phantom to 12V. A similar circuit
can be used to produce whatever voltage your mic
wants, and to route the power, signal, gnd, etc. as
needed.

NOTE THAT THE CIRCUIT CITED IS *NOT* EXACTLY
WHAT YOU NEED.  Without the exact details of your
mic, a precise answer is not possible.  Do you have
the complete model number of the microphone?  Do
you have the wiring diagram and/or pinout of the mic
connector?
Richard Crowley - 22 Sep 2007 01:38 GMT
>> Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
>> mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> you have the wiring diagram and/or pinout of the mic
> connector?

This appears to show the pinout of your microphone and
the wiring of the interface (page 10) .....
http://www.shure.com/stellent/groups/public/@gms_gmi_web_ug/documents/web_resour
ce/us_pro_mx1bp_ug.pdf


If I am reading it correctly, your mic wants...

Pin 1 = ground
Pin 2 = power (+6VDC? from a casual glance at the circuit)
Pin 3 = Audio out of mic
Pin 4 = Pin 3 [dunno why?]

You can interface it to the 1/4-inch mic input jacks of the
MT2496 with a variation on Rick Chinn's circuit I cited
previously.  You would need to change the zener diode
to limit to 6 volts, and change the wiring where it goes
to the microphone head.  It seems unlikely that you could
fit the required components into either connector shell.
normanstrong@comcast.net - 20 Sep 2007 18:48 GMT
> Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
> mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
> microtrack.
> pictures here: http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/mike/
> I've tried studiospares, shure, m-audio, no luck. I'll make an adpator if
> I have to but I'd rather buy a ready made one. Thanks for any help.

Use an ordinary XLR-XLR mike cable, and put an adapter from female XLR to
male 1/4" TRS plug.  The latter can be obtained from www.mcmelectronics.com 
as part number 27-4140.

Norm Strong
Tobiah - 20 Sep 2007 20:59 GMT
> Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
> mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
> microtrack.
> pictures here: http://www.zen73857.zen.co.uk/mike/
> I've tried studiospares, shure, m-audio, no luck. I'll make an adpator
> if I have to but I'd rather buy a ready made one. Thanks for any help.

Is this it?

Ebay Item number: 120162286447   

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Richard Crowley - 20 Sep 2007 21:05 GMT
>> Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
>> mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Is this it?
> Ebay Item number: 120162286447

That would be the right connector if it were male.
(Obvious lesbian joke left to your imagination. :-)

But note that the interface between the OP's microphone and
the 1/4" mic inputs on the MT2496 takes more than a simple
adapter/cable.
Eeyore - 20 Sep 2007 22:40 GMT
> > Hi, I'm looking for an adaptor that will connect my Shure lavalier
> > mike (with mini xlr plug) to a quarter inch jack socket on an m-audio
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Ebay Item number: 120162286447

That seller doesn't post to the UK unfortunately.

Graham
 
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