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Recharge a scooter battery?

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beatbox - 25 Jul 2008 14:33 GMT
Hi all,
My Vespa scooter battery is dead. On the side it says 12V 9Ah 80A
(eng)

My question is, if I just run 12V DC into the battery, will that
recharge it? I have an AC transformer which puts out 12V DC. I could
hook it up to the battery. Or is this a moronic proposal which will
dramatically shorten my life expectancy?

If it is at all reasonable, how long should I charge it for?

Thanks.
gfretwell@aol.com - 25 Jul 2008 14:52 GMT
>Hi all,
>My Vespa scooter battery is dead. On the side it says 12V 9Ah 80A
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>
>Thanks.

If it is a regulated 12v supply it won't charge the battery. If it is
unregulated it probably puts out 15-16v without a load. That might
work but I wouldn't try it without hanging a meter on it to see what
it is doing and I wouldn't leave it on there for extended periods in
any case
Anthony Guzzi - 25 Jul 2008 19:02 GMT
> Hi all,
> My Vespa scooter battery is dead. On the side it says 12V 9Ah 80A
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Thanks.

Why not just borrow a real battery charger from someone?
gfretwell@aol.com - 26 Jul 2008 02:22 GMT
>> Hi all,
>> My Vespa scooter battery is dead. On the side it says 12V 9Ah 80A
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Why not just borrow a real battery charger from someone?

You certainly don't want to use a regular car battery charger unless
it has a "trickle charge" setting. These are little batteries and
slamming them with 10 or 15a will fry them.
John G - 26 Jul 2008 00:56 GMT
> Hi all,
> My Vespa scooter battery is dead. On the side it says 12V 9Ah 80A
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Thanks.

Wots your real problem?

Surely you have the charger that came with this Vespa or did  has it failed.

Use the proper charger unless you know enough to do otherwise.
It is very difficult to give advice based on some limited facts.

John G.
Tim Perry - 29 Jul 2008 01:56 GMT
> > Hi all,
> > My Vespa scooter battery is dead. On the side it says 12V 9Ah 80A
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>
> John G.

Sure is John, however a little searching shows Vespa make gasoline powered
scooters so this is apparently a starting / lights battery.

Most likely the battery will need to be charged to 13.8 volts  and should
drop to 12.6 volts when not being charged.

The battery should be charged at 1 amp (or less) for 9 to 12 hours.

If you "sacked" the battery say by leaving the lights on, it may never again
reach a full 9 AH capacity.  It may be time for a new one.
Palindrome - 29 Jul 2008 09:43 GMT
>>> Hi all,
>>> My Vespa scooter battery is dead. On the side it says 12V 9Ah 80A
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> If you "sacked" the battery say by leaving the lights on, it may never again
> reach a full 9 AH capacity.  It may be time for a new one.

That brings back memories of my Lambretta LDA days. Then, the watts put
in by slow speed short distances and frequent stops that typify town
driving, never seemed to quite match those taken out by starting a few
times. Put the lights on and you would be in bump-start territory in no
time at all.  Getting the battery out was a time-consuming and filthy
job - so taking it out for a recharge on a regular basis was not an
option. For me, living a a rented second floor flat, getting the scooter
to a mains supply wasn't much of an option, either.

What I used to do was to have a 12v recreational battery in a pram.
Wheel that to the scooter and jumper it to chassis and starter motor
supply lead. A few minutes of that, then wheel the pram back to the flat
and put the battery back on trickle charger.

Worked for me!

--
Sue
Eric - 29 Jul 2008 13:19 GMT
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> My Vespa scooter battery is dead. On the side it says 12V 9Ah 80A
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>
> Worked for me!

My old Lambretta only had kick start and a magneto.  That was my first
vehicle.  What a load of fun it was..
Eric
 
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