Bug in OrCAD Crapture
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Jim Thompson - 04 Jul 2008 03:04 GMT In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...
----.---------------> GND __|__ --- -
Wiring from a ground symbol to a port name, the "zero" node effect is lost, giving "floating node" errors and all kinds of nonsensical grief.
Cured by inserting a zero-volt voltage source:
----.---------(=)-----> GND __|__ --- -
I have a small "(=)" symbol which netlists as a zero-volt voltage source that I use to make node-name-to-node-name connections without losing the uniqueness of each name.
...Jim Thompson
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----. .-------> GND PORT __|__ __|__ --- --- - -
<gasp>
Was no problem with SDT.
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Jim Thompson - 07 Jul 2008 19:08 GMT >> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below... >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Was no problem with SDT. Not a problem with PSpice Schematics either. Only caught it when I converted a PSpice Schematic to OrCAD Crapture... saved by Charlie Edmondson's insight... Thanks, Charlie!
...Jim Thompson
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Charlie E. - 07 Jul 2008 19:48 GMT >>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below... >>> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > ...Jim Thompson No problem.
The problem is so bad in ConceptHDL that they included the symbol to do that - connect two different named nets. In Capture, the only place you really need it is for power and ground nets, where you can't tolerate the name changes...
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Jim Thompson - 07 Jul 2008 21:54 GMT >>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >Charlie >www.edmondsonengineereing.com I had created my own part, NODE2NODE, in PSpice Schematics, to handle temporary ties during simulation without losing the individual names, so it was a piece-a-cake to add it into anything undergoing Crapturization ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Joerg - 07 Jul 2008 22:55 GMT >>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below... >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > so it was a piece-a-cake to add it into anything undergoing > Crapturization ;-) When I read this and other stuff I wonder why you and others are still using OrCad. I don't anymore.
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Jim Thompson - 07 Jul 2008 23:11 GMT >>>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below... >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] >When I read this and other stuff I wonder why you and others are still >using OrCad. I don't anymore. I'm not, but I have customers who insist on documentation presented in Crapture format.
...Jim Thompson
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Joerg - 07 Jul 2008 23:35 GMT >>>>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below... >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > I'm not, but I have customers who insist on documentation presented in > Crapture format. Then I must be rather lucky. None of mine require that.
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Jim Thompson - 07 Jul 2008 23:47 GMT >>>>>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below... >>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] > >Then I must be rather lucky. None of mine require that. I have worse problems than that, some want Cadence Composter and some want SPE :-(
...Jim Thompson
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Joerg - 08 Jul 2008 00:01 GMT >>>>>>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below... >>>>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > I have worse problems than that, some want Cadence Composter and some > want SPE :-( I'd probably try to convince them to have it transcribed by someone. This was done a few times in my cases since my clients use all kinds of CAD systems, one even AutoCAD (including the schematics). Adds a couple hours of my time to check the results but it sure is cheaper for the client. Beats having to pay for a complete seat plus my training.
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