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Bug in OrCAD Crapture

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Jim Thompson - 04 Jul 2008 03:04 GMT
In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...

----.---------------> GND
 __|__
  ---
   -

Wiring from a ground symbol to a port name, the "zero" node effect is
lost, giving "floating node" errors and all kinds of nonsensical
grief.

Cured by inserting a zero-volt voltage source:

----.---------(=)-----> GND
 __|__
  ---
   -

I have a small "(=)" symbol which netlists as a zero-volt voltage
source that I use to make node-name-to-node-name connections without
losing the uniqueness of each name.

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Joerg - 07 Jul 2008 18:44 GMT
> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> source that I use to make node-name-to-node-name connections without
> losing the uniqueness of each name.

You mean OrCad can't even do that anymore?

----.       .-------> GND PORT
  __|__   __|__
   ---     ---
    -       -

<gasp>

Was no problem with SDT.

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Jim Thompson - 07 Jul 2008 19:08 GMT
>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...
>>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
>Was no problem with SDT.

Not a problem with PSpice Schematics either.  Only caught it when I
converted a PSpice Schematic to OrCAD Crapture... saved by Charlie
Edmondson's insight... Thanks, Charlie!

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Charlie E. - 07 Jul 2008 19:48 GMT
>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
>
>                                        ...Jim Thompson
No problem.

The problem is so bad in ConceptHDL that they included the symbol to
do that - connect two different named nets.  In Capture, the only
place you really need it is for power and ground nets, where you can't
tolerate the name changes...

Charlie
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Jim Thompson - 07 Jul 2008 21:54 GMT
>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>Charlie
>www.edmondsonengineereing.com

I had created my own part, NODE2NODE, in PSpice Schematics, to handle
temporary ties during simulation without losing the individual names,
so it was a piece-a-cake to add it into anything undergoing
Crapturization ;-)

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Joerg - 07 Jul 2008 22:55 GMT
>>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> so it was a piece-a-cake to add it into anything undergoing
> Crapturization ;-)

When I read this and other stuff I wonder why you and others are still
using OrCad. I don't anymore.

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Jim Thompson - 07 Jul 2008 23:11 GMT
>>>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...
>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 50 lines]
>When I read this and other stuff I wonder why you and others are still
>using OrCad. I don't anymore.

I'm not, but I have customers who insist on documentation presented in
Crapture format.

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Joerg - 07 Jul 2008 23:35 GMT
>>>>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...
>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 52 lines]
> I'm not, but I have customers who insist on documentation presented in
> Crapture format.

Then I must be rather lucky. None of mine require that.

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Jim Thompson - 07 Jul 2008 23:47 GMT
>>>>>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...
>>>>>>>>
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>
>Then I must be rather lucky. None of mine require that.

I have worse problems than that, some want Cadence Composter and some
want SPE :-(

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Joerg - 08 Jul 2008 00:01 GMT
>>>>>>>>> In OrCAD Crapture, wiring as below...
>>>>>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> I have worse problems than that, some want Cadence Composter and some
> want SPE :-(

I'd probably try to convince them to have it transcribed by someone.
This was done a few times in my cases since my clients use all kinds of
CAD systems, one even AutoCAD (including the schematics). Adds a couple
hours of my time to check the results but it sure is cheaper for the
client. Beats having to pay for a complete seat plus my training.

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