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OPA277 Spice Model?

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Jim Thompson - 18 Jan 2008 17:26 GMT
Anyone have a current vintage Spice Model for an OPA277?

All I can find is a model dated in 1997, and developed using PSpice
"Parts" function, which sucks the big lemon :-(

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Joerg - 18 Jan 2008 18:49 GMT
> Anyone have a current vintage Spice Model for an OPA277?
>
> All I can find is a model dated in 1997, and developed using PSpice
> "Parts" function, which sucks the big lemon :-(

Guess you found this one, but just in case yours is older (bottom of page):
http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/opa277.html

It's the usual macro model. Since TI bought BB that may very well be all
there is in the public domain. I'd call them, see if they are willing to
release better stuff against an NDA.

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Jim Thompson - 18 Jan 2008 19:01 GMT
>> Anyone have a current vintage Spice Model for an OPA277?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>there is in the public domain. I'd call them, see if they are willing to
>release better stuff against an NDA.

Same one I found... seems to be the only one floating around :-(

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Joerg - 18 Jan 2008 19:06 GMT
>>> Anyone have a current vintage Spice Model for an OPA277?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Same one I found... seems to be the only one floating around :-(

Well, just call them up and try to cajole them into releasing the good
stuff :-)

Not that they always do it. For a TPS regulator they said no and then I
consequently designed it out. Lost revenue for them. Other times I was
luckier.

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sycochkn - 18 Jan 2008 23:41 GMT
> Anyone have a current vintage Spice Model for an OPA277?
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>         America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/opa277.html

some of the ic makers can provide spice models also.

Bob
Jim Thompson - 18 Jan 2008 23:46 GMT
>> Anyone have a current vintage Spice Model for an OPA277?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Bob

That's the model I already have.  If you look inside the zipfile
you'll note that the model is dated 1997, but the worst thing about it
is that the model was derived used PSpice "Parts" program, which is a
notorious piece-a-crap ;-)

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sycochkn - 19 Jan 2008 02:44 GMT
>>> Anyone have a current vintage Spice Model for an OPA277?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
>         America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

Have you emailed the parts maker or looked on their site?

Bob
sycochkn - 19 Jan 2008 03:36 GMT
>>> Anyone have a current vintage Spice Model for an OPA277?
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
>         America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

* DEVICE=OPA277,OPAMP,NPN,INT

*

* OPA277 operational amplifier "macromodel" subcircuit

* created using Parts release 8.0 on 11/18/97 at 11:06

* Parts is a MicroSim product.

*

* connections:  non-inverting input

*               | inverting input

*               | | positive power supply

*               | | |  negative power supply

*               | | |  |  output

*               | | |  |  |

.subckt OPA277  + - V+ V- OUT

*

 c1   11 12 4.8119E-12

 c2    6  7 110.00E-12

 dc    OUT 53 dy

 de   54  OUT dy

 dlp  90 91 dx

 dln  92 90 dx

 dp    V- V+ dx

 dq1  20 21 dx

 dq2  22 20 dx

 egnd 99  0 poly(2) (V+,0) (V-,0) 0 .5 .5

 fb    7 99 poly(5) vb vc ve vlp vln 0 1.5000E9 -1E3 1E3 1E9 -1E9

 fq1   V+  0 vq1 1

 fq2   0  V- vq2 1

 fq3   0 20 vlim 1

 ga    6  0 11 12 133.33E-6

 gcm   0  6 10 99 13.333E-12

 iee  10  V- dc 100.60E-6

 hlim 90  0 vlim 1K

 q1   11  42 13 qx1

 q2   12  41 14 qx2

 r2    6  9 100.00E3

 rc1   V+ 11 7.5000E3

 rc2   V+ 12 7.5000E3

 re1  13 10 750

 re2  14 10 750

 ree  10 99 1.9881E6

 ro1   8  OUT 50

 ro2   7 99 25

 rp    V+ V- 42.511E3

 vb    9  0 dc 0

 vc    V+ 53 dc 1.8124

 ve   54  V- dc 1.8124

 vlim  7  8 dc 0

 vlp  91  0 dc 35

 vln   0 92 dc 35

 vq1  21  0 dc 0

 vq2   0 22 dc 0

*Input Protection Circuitry

 r1in  + 41 1K

 r2in  - 42 1K

 din1 41 42 dx

 din2 42 41 dx

.model dx D(Is=800.00E-18)

.model dy D(Is=800.00E-18 Rs=1m Cjo=10p)

.model qx1 NPN(Is=800.00E-18 Bf=100E3 Kf=250f)

.model qx2 NPN(Is=800.3094E-18 Bf=200.00E3 Kf=250f)

.ends OPA277

*

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Capacitive Stability Test Circuit
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a 0 sp 11 0 16 34 hln 100 PART=OPA277
a 0 sp 0 0 0 0 hln 100 MODEL=OPA277
a 0 sp 0 0 0 0 hln 100 TEMPLATE=X^@REFDES %+ %- %V+ %V- %OUT @MODEL
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p 2 20 54 hrn 100 + n 0 50 h
a 0 s 1 0 7 46 hrn 100 PIN=3
a 0 s 0 0 0 50 hln 100 ERC=i
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a 0 s 1 0 7 20 hrn 100 PIN=2
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a 0 s 0 0 40 60 hln 100 FLOAT=e
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***************************************************
Explanation of files that may be included in this zip package:

.mod       P-SPICE MACROMODEL FILE
.sch       SCHEMATIC EXAMPLE
.slb       SYMBOL FILE FOR P-SPICE DESIGN CENTER(R)MICROSIM CORP
Winfield - 19 Jan 2008 03:47 GMT
> Anyone have a current vintage Spice Model for an OPA277?
> All I can find is a model dated in 1997, and developed
> using PSpice "Parts" function, which sucks the big lemon :-(

Few, if any, spice opamp models are well-suited
for every imaginable performance aspect.  What,
specifically, are you trying to model in your
circuit, that TI's opa277 spice model doesn't
handle properly?  There may be a workaround.
Jim Thompson - 19 Jan 2008 15:38 GMT
>> Anyone have a current vintage Spice Model for an OPA277?
>> All I can find is a model dated in 1997, and developed
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> circuit, that TI's opa277 spice model doesn't
> handle properly?  There may be a workaround.

Hang loose... we be talking to the same developer ;-)

                                       ...Jim Thompson
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|  Analog Innovations, Inc.                         |     et      |
|  Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems  |    manus    |
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