Electronics Forum / CAD / January 2008

I use a PCBCAD program I got off ebay for less than £20.
It allows mirroring and inverting of the print.

Thanks for info Rich,

i think i tried or was going to try Kicad but they only had a
LINUX version ? Maybe i am mistaken i see they have windows
binaries. well i 'll take a look.

thanks for info ,
robb

Thanks for help Jeff,
I suppose i just need to use it to get used to the interface , as
with most apps.
more flexibility  translates to bigger learning curve.

thanks for help,
robb

Thanks for reply D,
The app i was using had object selection and then choose
opertation to perform....
where eagle is more an operation mode select and then you apply
the operation to the objects .

so i am continually applying  unintended opertations to objects
like rotations and moves that were un intended alwys scrambling
things.

robb

Easy-PC is much easier to use. Advanced Circuits supply a free version
of it called "PC Artist".

Leon

I badmouth Eagle sometimes because I think their wonks don't listen. They
have a suggestions newsgroup, but the vast majority of suggestions go
unanswered and it seems like most underlying cause for the complaints remain
unfixed. But I use it because I know it; but also in it's own way,
(-whatever that is-) it is very good. I am looking at other packages, but it
is hard to change old habits.

Here is the script that I run to setup my workspace. Save to the SCR folder
and invoke by clicking >File >Script >  (BRD-SCH-PAC-SYM_edit.scr)

It is good that Eagle has this capability, but I sometimes wonder, "why is
this necessary"?
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# BRD-SCH-PAC-SYM_edit.scr
# Describes diferent BRD, SCH, PAC,and SYM editors grid settings.
# Use instead of "Assign" keyboard shortcuts. Otherwise, there is no
difference between PAC and SYM settings.
######################################################
# Run this script after switching between PAC and SYM and editors
# to eliminate compromised optimal grid settings
# and lessen the need to memorize keyboard shortcuts that
# cannot be performed with one hand.
# As you determine your preferences, change the menues.
# Also run for SCH and PCB editing.

pac:
assign C+A 'grid in; grid .025 2 on'
assign C+Q 'grid in; grid .0125 4 on'
assign C+s 'grid in; grid .00625 8 on'
assign C+w 'grid in; grid .003125 16 on'
assign C+d 'grid in; grid .0015625 32 on'
assign C+e 'grid in; grid .00078125 64 on'
assign C+f 'grid in; grid .000390625 128 on'
assign A+m 'grid mm; grid 1 1 on'
assign A+n 'grid mm; grid .5 2 on'
assign A+b 'grid mm; grid .25 4 on'
assign A+v 'grid mm; grid .125 8 on'
assign A+c 'grid mm; grid .05 20 on'
assign A+d 'grid mm; grid .1 10 on'
assign C+z 'grid last'
assign C+X 'grid default on'
assign A+X 'grid .1 10 on'
set width_menu .086 .076 .066 .056 .050 .040 .032 .028 .024 .020 .016 .012
.01 .008 .006 .005;
set smd_menu 0.012 x0.00 0.016 x0.008 0.024 x0.012 0.024 x0.086 0.032 x0.016
0.04 x0.02 0.05 x0.025 0.055 x0.028 0.066 x0.032 0.07 x0.036 0.076 x0.038
0.086 x0.042 0.1 x0.05;
set diameter_menu .155 .143 .132 .12 .112 .108 .104 .100 .096 .092 .090 .086
.082 .075 .0675 .052;
set drill_menu .028 .032 .033 .035 .036 .040 .043 .0465 .0472 .051 .055 .060
.0635 .067 .072 .076;

sym:
assign C+A 'grid in; grid .05 2 on'
assign C+q 'grid in; grid .025 4 on'
assign C+s 'grid in; grid .0125 8 on'
assign C+w 'grid in; grid .00625 16 on'
assign C+d 'grid in; grid .003125 32 on'
assign C+e 'grid in; grid .0015625 64 on'
assign C+f 'grid in; grid .00078125 128 on'
assign C+z 'grid last'
assign C+X 'grid default on'
set width_menu .01 .086 .076 .066 .050 .040 .032 .028 .024 .020 .016 .012
.01 .006 .005;

brd:
assign C+A 'grid in; grid .025 2 on'
assign C+Q 'grid in; grid .0125 4 on'
assign C+s 'grid in; grid .00625 8 on'
assign C+w 'grid in; grid .003125 16 on'
assign C+d 'grid in; grid .0015625 32 on'
assign C+e 'grid in; grid .00078125 64 on'
assign A+m 'grid mm; grid 1 1 on'
assign A+n 'grid mm; grid .5 2 on'
assign A+b 'grid mm; grid .25 4 on'
assign A+v 'grid mm; grid .125 8 on'
assign A+c 'grid mm; grid .0625 16 on'
assign A+d 'grid mm; grid .03125 32 on'
assign A+e 'grid mm; grid .015625 64 on
assign C+z 'grid last'
assign C+X 'grid default on'
set width_menu .1 .08 .06 .050 .048 .040 .0375 .03 .025 .024 .020 .015 .0125
.01 .008 .006;
set diameter_menu .155 .143 .132 .12 .112 .108 .104 .100 .096 .092 .090 .086
.082 .075 .0675 .052;
set drill_menu .028 .032 .033 .035 .036 .040 .043 .0465 .0472 .051 .055 .060
.0635 .067 .072;

sch:
#grid alternate .0125 16 on;
assign C+A 'grid in; grid .05 2 on'
assign C+q 'grid in; grid .025 4 on'
assign C+s 'grid in; grid .0125 8 on'
assign C+w 'grid in; grid .00625 16 on'
assign C+d 'grid in; grid .003125 32 on'
assign C+e 'grid in; grid .0015625 64 on'
assign C+f 'grid in; grid .00078125 128 on'
assign C+z 'grid last'
assign C+X 'grid default off'
set width_menu .01 .086 .076 .066 .050 .040 .032 .028 .024 .020 .016 .012
.01 .006 .005;

################################
# PERSONAL NOTES
# use .0675 diameter for DIP pads  *** cha dia .0675 ***
# use .052 dia for TO92 transistor-inline pins (long shape)  *** cha dia
.052 ***
#end

With best regards, Brett Holden.  E-mail: bretth2o@bellsoh.net