>[big snip]
>I've been struggling my way through various free programs
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> freerouting.net - to do autorouting and export .ses files.
> FreePCB - again to import the .ses files and do some final editing.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/bc1bbe74982
d60d4/e00cfa9db3d98af0?q=*-*-*-provided-schematic-entry-*-*+%20LTSpice.import+gs
chem.schematic.capture+zz-zz+qq+the.gEDA.Suite+uu+LTSpice-*-*-runs-any-syntactic
ally-correct-SPICE-netlist
>I would prefer to be able to get the graphics on to AutoCad
To a guy with a hammer, everything looks like a nail??
>so that I can have full control of the PCBs appearance.
An "ECAD" seems so much more apt.
>[...]I need to print
>so that I can produce the occassional Gootee board.
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>Also, I'm running windows.
>I would love to run Linux but it is not an option for me right now.
Please *do* specify why not.
For $200 you could easily buy another HDD to use as a Linux partition.
Hell, you could probably use someone's cast-off HDD for free.
>Also, the last time I tried to use Cygwin
>I found it to be a lesson in futility.
...or was it a *libraries* problem?
I can see you now, screaming and tearing your hair out. 8-(
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:WTdypZlJUk4J:www.geda.seul.org/download.htm
l+There.is.no.supported+Stuart.Brorson+depending.upon.your+Windows+only.works+La
st.update+gEDA-is-free-*-*-*+your.*.*.expertise+theoretically.possible+*.*.yours
elf+version+ahvezda+distribution.and+2007+missing.dependencies+*-*-despair+Linux
>In other words, the gEDA package sounds great
There's nothing more "free" than gratis AND libre.
>but I probably won't touch it
>unless it comes in a windows friendly package.
Considering the hoops you're already jumping thru
and your apparent unwillingness to add a Linux partition,
*this* would be no more cumbersome a solution
to getting gEDA working on a Windoze box:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/3b6f24029a8
b34cf/5ef0c2c6f82294d6?q=*-Knoppix-like-CD-with-gEDA-*-*+Quantian+dual-boot-*-*+
Win-2000-or-XP+zzz+*-brand-spanking-new-*-*+zillions+*-distro-*-*-providing-open
-source-scientific-and-engineering-apps
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.cad/browse_frm/thread/3b6f24029a8
b34cf/ab1f73b31991144e?q=If.you.are.bandwidth-challenged+without.installing.a.si
ngle.thing+for-$2
.
.
In addition, if you are a Windoze user
and are such a fan of free software,
it's hard to believe you haven't stumbled across KiCAD.
laylow - 31 Jul 2007 19:12 GMT
> >[big snip]
> >I've been struggling my way through various free programs
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>
> To a guy with a hammer, everything looks like a nail??
You've got me all wrong, I'm a guy with a nail and everything looks
like a hammer!
> >so that I can have full control of the PCBs appearance.
>
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> For $200 you could easily buy another HDD to use as a Linux partition.
> Hell, you could probably use someone's cast-off HDD for free.
Okay, I'm happy to indulge anyone that has tried to help me. I can't
install Linux on my work pc, my pc at home is down and I haven't
touched it in months, and the HDD on my laptop is full. I used to
think of myself as a computer guy but lately I'm fed up with fixing
computers so I probably won't work on my pc until I have to. Other
than that, I don't have a good excuse for never installing Linux.
I've had Debian/Libranet on disc for years and have never got around
to installing it. Right now I am frustrated that I have spent more of
the past two weeks fooling around with computer programs instead of
actually building the PCB.
> >Also, the last time I tried to use Cygwin
> >I found it to be a lesson in futility.
>
> ...or was it a *libraries* problem?
> I can see you now, screaming and tearing your hair out. 8-(http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:WTdypZlJUk4J:www.geda.seul.org/d...
The first time I ever heard of Cygwin was when I needed to do some CFD
Flow Modeling. Documentation was scarce and it seemed that everyone
assumed the end user was familiar with the process. I don't know if
it was more of a problem with Cygwin or with the CFD program. I would
fix my computer and install Linux before I ever try to use Cygwin
again.
> >In other words, the gEDA package sounds great
>
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> .
> .
I'm guessing here but it sounds like "a Knoppix like gEDA disc" is a
bootable CD that runs a Linux OS and allows gEDA to be run? That
would be cool.
> In addition, if you are a Windoze user
> and are such a fan of free software,
> it's hard to believe you haven't stumbled across KiCAD.
Yes, hard to believe I guess. It looks very impressive, I think I'll
try it.
After this project is done, I probably will install Linux and go with
the gEDA. I just can't stand putting this project off anymore.
Thanks,
ll
> Is there a way to get the PCB trace from FreePCB to AutoCad? I was
> hoping that I would get lucky and just be able to copy and paste but
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> although I see the option to print, it is always grayed out and won't
> allow me.
--snip--
Further reading in the FreePCB documentation revealed that the
printing options haven't been implemented yet. It also suggested the
use of ViewMate 9.6 which I am able to print from just fine.
I'm still open to other suggestions to go from simulation>autorouting/
manual routing>printed PCB pattern.
Thanks all,
ll