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Cadstar to Orcad conversion?

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kavdas@gmail.com - 04 May 2007 16:24 GMT
Does any one know how to convert Cadstar PC board and schematics to
Orcard?

- Kavita
Jim Thompson - 04 May 2007 17:16 GMT
>Does any one know how to convert Cadstar PC board and schematics to
>Orcard?
>
>- Kavita

Just surf for "Quality-to-Crap" ;-)

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Joerg - 04 May 2007 18:16 GMT
>>Does any one know how to convert Cadstar PC board and schematics to
>>Orcard?
>>
>>- Kavita
>
> Just surf for "Quality-to-Crap" ;-)

I've heard your complaints about OrCad before. And I have some
reservations as well. Crashed too often for my taste, too expensive
IMHO. I like Cadsoft Eagle a whole lot better except for some minor
shortcomings. But why is almost everybody still using OrCad? Out here in
the West it seems to be the de-facto standard.

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Jim Thompson - 05 May 2007 00:29 GMT
>>>Does any one know how to convert Cadstar PC board and schematics to
>>>Orcard?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>shortcomings. But why is almost everybody still using OrCad? Out here in
>the West it seems to be the de-facto standard.

Once upon a time there was DOS and there was OrCAD that ran under DOS,
and God saw that it was good ;-)

Then as Windows came to being, the nutcases at OrCAD decided they
could make their own Windows... running under DOS.  It was klutzy and
bloated.

Then, working as a true Windows application, OrCAD became more klutzy
and more bloated... and God said, "THIS is the Devil" ;-)

Then OrCAD saw that there was MicroSim PSpice, that had its own
front-end called, simply, PSpice Schematics.

OrCAD knew it was good, so they bought the company, not to use the
skills of the Schematics creators, but to destroy the competition.

Then Cadence bought OrCAD in a similar attempt.

Now OrCAD Capture is sold only to company executives who have no clue
and ignore the input from users.

So crap has encompassed the earth :-(

But the old MicroSim Schematics will still serve as an outstanding
front-end for PSpice.

So I continue to use it.

I stopped paying for "support" in 2006 when I realized that five years
of bug fix requests had been ignored.

This year, so far, I have written probably a dozen macros that cure
all the bugs plus provide facilities/abilities (*) that OrCAD can only
dream of... all their "development" is now in India :-(

(*) For example:

1) "Binned" models capability
2) Reduction of {...} expressions to numeric values (physical
dimension calculations for layout)
3) LVS netlisting

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Boris Mohar - 05 May 2007 02:39 GMT
>Once upon a time there was DOS and there was OrCAD that ran under DOS,
>and God saw that it was good ;-)
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
>
>                                        ...Jim Thompson

Layout is nearly dead

current release 15.7 comes with Capture plus the Allegro PCB Editor and
Spectra autorouter, called OrCAD PCB Editor

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Joerg - 06 May 2007 00:34 GMT
>>Once upon a time there was DOS and there was OrCAD that ran under DOS,
>>and God saw that it was good ;-)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>Then, working as a true Windows application, OrCAD became more klutzy
>>and more bloated... and God said, "THIS is the Devil" ;-)

Maybe that's why I crashed it so often.

>>Then OrCAD saw that there was MicroSim PSpice, that had its own
>>front-end called, simply, PSpice Schematics.
>>
>>OrCAD knew it was good, so they bought the company, not to use the
>>skills of the Schematics creators, but to destroy the competition.

Why is it that companies buy others and then torch them? Just saw that
happen in the med world. Again. Getting rid of competition may or may
not be a laudable motivation here but if they'd do a due diligence and
find out that the competitor's product was better then a torching makes
no sense. Simply buy'em and use their stuff. Unless intra-company
politics play into the game, of course.

>>Then Cadence bought OrCAD in a similar attempt.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>I stopped paying for "support" in 2006 when I realized that five years
>>of bug fix requests had been ignored.

I doubt I'd have had five years of patience.

>>This year, so far, I have written probably a dozen macros that cure
>>all the bugs plus provide facilities/abilities (*) that OrCAD can only
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> current release 15.7 comes with Capture plus the Allegro PCB Editor and
> Spectra autorouter, called OrCAD PCB Editor

What do their charge for that? More than the usual arm and leg?

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JeffM - 17 May 2007 21:12 GMT
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RHRRC - 04 May 2007 22:21 GMT
On 4 May, 17:16, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-
Site.com> wrote:

> >Does any one know how to convert Cadstar PC board and schematics to
> >Orcard?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>                                         ...Jim Thompson
> --

I dunno Orcad but from the above statement I deduce that:
    1. either you work for Cadstar and fear you will not be able to
get another job if you lose the current one.
    2. or you have no idea what a 'PC board and schematics' means but
like to see your own name in print so
just respond with anything
    3 or you have answered with the right words but accidentaly put
them in the wrong order.

Cadstar is bloatware target marketed to non-electronic technical
management. Surely Orcad cannot be worse.
Jim Thompson - 04 May 2007 23:30 GMT
>On 4 May, 17:16, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@My-Web-
>Site.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Cadstar is bloatware target marketed to non-electronic technical
>management. Surely Orcad cannot be worse.

Your ignorance is phenomenal!  Please go sit in the corner, with your
dunce hat on, until called upon to speak again ;-)

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Marra - 16 May 2007 23:08 GMT
I just buy one GOOD piece of PCB software and stick with that.

Other wise get a Gerber importer.

www.ckp-railways.talktalk.net/pcbcad21.htm
 
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