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John  Larkin - 19 Mar 2006 22:45 GMT
I'm trying to edit a schematic using PADS Logic. It won't let me edit
a net name. If a name is something like $$$1234, and I click it and
try to edit the net to anything else, the net name in the dialog box
is grey and can't be changed. I can add an offpage connector, then a
new name, but if I delete the offpage, the net reverts to a stupid
$$$nnnn type name.

Anybody know why?

And in the older versions, I could double-click along a connection and
pop up a new visible net name, and leave it there in plain sight. I
can't seem to do that now.

John
Dave - 20 Mar 2006 09:37 GMT
John Larkin wrote:
> I'm trying to edit a schematic using PADS Logic. It won't let me edit
> a net name. If a name is something like $$$1234, and I click it and
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>
> John

The behaviour is somewhat bizarre. If you select a net segment that joins
onto a component,  PADS will let you assign a visible name to that net. If
you select any other segment on the same net, or use 'select net', it won't.
Logic it ain't.

Dave
chenlei7500@gmail.com - 22 Mar 2006 02:20 GMT
John Larkin wrote:
> I'm trying to edit a schematic using PADS Logic. It won't let me edit
> a net name. If a name is something like $$$1234, and I click it and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> John
chenlei7500@gmail.com - 22 Mar 2006 02:25 GMT
John Larkin wrote:
> I'm trying to edit a schematic using PADS Logic. It won't let me edit
> a net name. If a name is something like $$$1234, and I click it and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> John

I am using the PADS 2004. I couldn't edit the name of the net.  It just
allows me edit the net of POWER and GND in the Logic.

Why you have to edit the name??? In the PADS PowerPCB , you could edit
the name of the net.
Paul E. Schoen - 24 Mar 2006 19:05 GMT
The net names text is associated with pins on components. You need to click
on a connection segment that is closest to one of the components, and then
you can edit the net name. You can also check "add net name". Then, you can
move and rotate the net name to another location along the net. I am still
using PowerLogic 5.0 here, and PADS Logic 2004SP2 (or maybe 2005SP1) at
another location and this seems to work.

A better forum for questions like this is listserver.pads.com, where there
is a lot of discussion about problems in newer releases.

Paul E. Schoen
www.pstech-inc.com

> I'm trying to edit a schematic using PADS Logic. It won't let me edit
> a net name. If a name is something like $$$1234, and I click it and
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> John
Robert - 25 Mar 2006 00:34 GMT
> The net names text is associated with pins on components. You need to
> click
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Paul E. Schoen
> www.pstech-inc.com

Is that the one with Austen on it?

There's sure some pissed off people about the 30 year lease (for PADS) they
bought and the 1.5 (IIRC) year they got.

Robert
John Larkin - 25 Mar 2006 01:47 GMT
>> The net names text is associated with pins on components. You need to
>> click
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>
>Robert

Wow, does PADS time out or something?

Oh, I found the problem. You have to first click the "query mode" icon
at the top, the blue circle with the "i" inside, or else the
change-netname dialog appears, but won't work.

I normally draw my schematics in pencil, on d-size vellum, and leave
the cad stuff to my drafting guy, but we have a rush job so I'm
working on this stuff on weekends.

John
Robert - 25 Mar 2006 02:08 GMT
>>> The net names text is associated with pins on components. You need to
>>> click
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>
> Wow, does PADS time out or something?

Yes, apparently.

You only "rent" it. You don't buy it. It stops working after the time set in
the License file.

It used to be (IIRC) that you could purchase a 30 year license period,
essentially "buying" it. Then some people noticed that when their P.O. said
the 30 year period and Mentor accepted it they were getting a License file
with 1.5 years. Apparently Mentor bought PADS a while ago and changed how it
is sold. I don't know how many, if any, new License files you get for the
same Purchase. Near as I can tell no one else can figure that out as well.

Robert
John Larkin - 25 Mar 2006 02:36 GMT
>>>> The net names text is associated with pins on components. You need to
>>>> click
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>
>Robert

Yikes! Sounds like they GenericCad/Autocad thing all over; buy it,
kill it, force the customers to go upscale.

John
Jim Thompson - 25 Mar 2006 02:51 GMT
>>>>> The net names text is associated with pins on components. You need to
>>>>> click
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>
>John

I think I mentioned this before....

A number of years ago a client loaned me a copy of HSpice (in the days
before PSpice could handle BSIM3v3).

Midway through the project the license timed out.

So the oldest son wrote a "wrapper" around HSpice.exe:

The wrapper, at opening, changed the system date to a date where the
license was valid.

The cute part occurred on closing:  System date was changed back to
the current date and all files created during the session had their
dates changed to current date as well.

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Joel Kolstad - 27 Mar 2006 22:29 GMT
> So the oldest son wrote a "wrapper" around HSpice.exe:
>
> The wrapper, at opening, changed the system date to a date where the
> license was valid.

These days such a simplisitic approach is pretty unlikely to work.  Mst EDA
companies these days go to using a commercial license manager such as FlexLM
which -- although people can and do manage to crack it -- is sophisticated
enough that the average Joe isn't going to be able to circumvent it.  (In
fact, much of what you see these days are people simply spoofing license
files -- often far easier than changing, e.g., the license daemon.  This has
unfortunately created a return to the days of a dongled license server,
although at least with USB dongles hardware compatibility problems are nowhere
near as bad as they were with parallel port dongesl.)
 
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