I need to link up/attach two pcb's together.
Whats the best connector for the bus lines? I need at least 40 pins.
Someone suggested I use the same connector used on an IDE harddrive
and on PC motherboards.
But I dont know the name of that connector and cabling (i call it
IDE cables)?
I need to know the name of those jumper pins arranged in 2 rows of 20
Plus I would need a means of crimping my own cables
Anyone have any ideas?
I am ruling out cardedge connectors for now since I need to mount
the boards horizontal to one another
>I need to link up/attach two pcb's together.
>
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>But I dont know the name of that connector and cabling (i call it
>IDE cables)?
40 pin shrouded male headers (20 x 2) 0.1" pitch and 40 pin IDC female
connectors, and some 40 pin 0.050" pitch flat cable (1.27mm). Check
catalogs for part numbers from your favorite connector suppliers.
>I need to know the name of those jumper pins arranged in 2 rows of 20
>Plus I would need a means of crimping my own cables
You can use a vice/vise to do the crimping. No big deal for small
quantity. Use strain reliefs on the connectors if you want.
>Anyone have any ideas?
>I am ruling out cardedge connectors for now since I need to mount
>the boards horizontal to one another
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

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> I need to link up/attach two pcb's together.
>
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> I am ruling out cardedge connectors for now since I need to mount
> the boards horizontal to one another
Hi samlam
I have used 2.54" pitch shrouded IDC headers and sockets to
interconnect PCB's, the same as used on hard drives etc. They are not
small profile but are cheap and reliable, and are available in straight
and right-angle mounting. Some manufacturers are Molex and Multicomp.
To attach cables to these headers, you can use ribbon cable in which
case a hammer will suffice to close the connector onto the cable, or
crimped stranded wire in which case a cheap crimper from your discount
hardware store will do or a regular pliers will also do albeit a bit
fiddly. For connector manufacturers links visit the connectors page on
my electronic engineering website business directory:
http://www.electronic-eng.com/busdir/connector.html
Best regards
Alan
www.electronic-eng.com
electronic-eng.com - 16 Mar 2006 17:37 GMT
> > I need to link up/attach two pcb's together.
> >
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> Alan
> www.electronic-eng.com
Sorry, that should be 2.54mm not 2.54" !
John Devereux - 16 Mar 2006 18:03 GMT
> I have used 2.54" pitch shrouded IDC headers and sockets to
> interconnect PCB's, the same as used on hard drives etc. They are not
> small profile but are cheap and reliable, and are available in straight
> and right-angle mounting. Some manufacturers are Molex and Multicomp.
> To attach cables to these headers, you can use ribbon cable in which
> case a hammer will suffice to close the connector onto the cable,
A *Hammer* !?? Us real proffessionals use a bench vise! :)

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electronic-eng.com - 16 Mar 2006 21:48 GMT
> > I have used 2.54" pitch shrouded IDC headers and sockets to
> > interconnect PCB's, the same as used on hard drives etc. They are not
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>
> John Devereux
Admittedly a bench vise is better, but I would imagine the majority are
more likely to have a hammer than a bench vise available to them ;)
Brad Velander - 17 Mar 2006 08:36 GMT
Guys,
Both methods are pretty dodgey. Careful assembly with the vise would
definitely be less likely to fail if assembled by someone that knew how not
to overstress the part or the wire connections.
If you read the detailed descriptions on assembly/reliability of those
connector types, you will find that there are limitations not only on force
applied to the connector but also finished clinching height. The finished
clinching height ensures that the wires are not over inserted (yes that is
very possible), deforming the contacts and causing unreliable connections.

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Brad Velander.
>> A *Hammer* !?? Us real proffessionals use a bench vise! :)
>>
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> Admittedly a bench vise is better, but I would imagine the majority are
> more likely to have a hammer than a bench vise available to them ;)
John Devereux - 17 Mar 2006 10:06 GMT
>>> A *Hammer* !?? Us real proffessionals use a bench vise! :)
>>
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> Guys,
> Both methods are pretty dodgey.
Just thought I should clarify here that my "real proffessionals use a
bench vise" comment was supposed to be humorous!

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Brad Velander - 18 Mar 2006 05:46 GMT
John,
It seemed as though you were being facetious but I stated it just for
the benefit of the doubt.
I know a lot of people do use vises and think nothing of it, but they
obviously haven't seriously read the literature with respect to connection
reliability. I have on rare occasions used a vise as well but with a great
deal of caution and knowing the technical details and possible
ramifications. I was also doing my best to ensure that I didn't over clench
the part.

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> Just thought I should clarify here that my "real proffessionals use a
> bench vise" comment was supposed to be humorous!
Joel Kolstad - 18 Mar 2006 17:09 GMT
> I know a lot of people do use vises and think nothing of it, but they
> obviously haven't seriously read the literature with respect to connection
> reliability.
I'd suggest that unless you're in a production environment and worrying about
yield, connection reliability decreases due to less-than-perfectly-crimped
connections is probably the least of your worries. Far more often I've just
seen build put the connectors on backwards, off one row, skewed at an angle,
etc.! :-)
electronic-eng.com - 22 Mar 2006 14:38 GMT
Hammer, vice, feet, you forehead, whatever! These suggestions are only
for hobbyists and quick prototyping on your bench. For actual
production cable assemblies shipping to customers you should definately
use the manufacturers recommended kit for maximum reliability.
Alan
www.electronic-eng.com
Ken Smith - 17 Mar 2006 16:06 GMT
[...]
>> > To attach cables to these headers, you can use ribbon cable in which
>> > case a hammer will suffice to close the connector onto the cable,
>>
>> A *Hammer* !?? Us real proffessionals use a bench vise! :)
I use a pair of "vice grips"

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Paul Burke - 17 Mar 2006 17:00 GMT
>>>>To attach cables to these headers, you can use ribbon cable in which
>>>>case a hammer will suffice to close the connector onto the cable,
>>>
>>>A *Hammer* !?? Us real proffessionals use a bench vise! :)
> I use a pair of "vice grips"
I just put it on the floor and stand on it.
Spehro Pefhany - 17 Mar 2006 17:37 GMT
>>>>>To attach cables to these headers, you can use ribbon cable in which
>>>>>case a hammer will suffice to close the connector onto the cable,
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>
>I just put it on the floor and stand on it.
The $30 or so a decent Record vise/vice costs (a small one with hard
plastic jaw liners), is well, well worth it. I can't imagine a hammer
producing reliable results.
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

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