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Doing Layout on two outer layers in OrCAD

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Vitaliy - 20 Jan 2006 01:59 GMT
I have to place the components on the top and on the bottom of the
board to save space.
I could not find in OrCAD manuals the information on how to do it.

PS. I also have +5V, -5V and gnd - I don't want them to be inner
layers.

Thanks,
Vitaliy
PeteS - 20 Jan 2006 08:57 GMT
> I have to place the components on the top and on the bottom of the
> board to save space.
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> Thanks,
> Vitaliy

Although I am not currently using OrCad layout, one would assume there
is a 'mirror' command somewhere. If you mirror a component, it (by
definition) should get placed on the opposite side of the board.

Cheers

PeteS
Vitaliy - 20 Jan 2006 15:13 GMT
Yes, I found the solution - select a part and then change the layer to
bottom (or press 't' to toggle)
Simon Peacock - 20 Jan 2006 23:18 GMT
A straight mirror can be dangerous.  Protel 99SE has a mirror and change
layer commands.

The Mirror is handy if you want to mount a chip upside down.  Why you ask?
I once did a demo board for a remote control.  All the SMD component were
mounted upside down with holes cut into the PCB so that the height
restrictions were met.  I believe the final version was going to be
chip-on-board with thick film discrete.

Simon

> > I have to place the components on the top and on the bottom of the
> > board to save space.
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>
> PeteS
Paul Burke - 21 Jan 2006 11:06 GMT
>  All the SMD component were
> mounted upside down with holes cut into the PCB so that the height
> restrictions were met.

Did you manage to make split through- plated holes for the resistors,
caps etc? Can this be made by PCB manufacturers?
Vitaliy - 24 Jan 2006 06:23 GMT
I must use OrCAD, so not much choice there.  I was given a board and
asked to repeat what's on the board as close as possible. Why is
straight mirror dangerous and what's a better solution?

Vitaliy
Joel Kolstad - 24 Jan 2006 06:40 GMT
> Why is
> straight mirror dangerous and what's a better solution?

It's much more likely someone will be able to prove your counterfeit board
really does infringe directly on someone else's design? :-)  Whereas if you at
least shove a few components and traces around you might argue both the boards
were manufacturer's references designs maybe? :-)
Vitaliy - 24 Jan 2006 19:27 GMT
Well, it's part of research project and the previous board was done in
the different software for the same supervisor, so I should be safe:)
 
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