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Electronics Forum / CAD / July 2005Relocating - need advice
Hi All, Pardon me because this is off-topic, but it is important. I have been asked to move with my company to San Diego California, and I need some reference point to compare what they are offering. Can anyone tell me: - What ballpark base salary (before benefits and 401(k)) should a Computer/Electronics engineer with about 5 years experience and detailed product knowledge for a product support / technical sales role expect (in EDA market). - What ballpark (if different from above) would a *Senior* Application Engineer with a proven customer service and communication track record expect? I have experience in FPGA/Embedded and PCB design at a systems level, with reasonable coding ability in C and VHDL. Thanks for any advice you may give - I appreciate it! (Anonymity may be required on my part, so forgive me for not stating my name) >I have been asked to move with my company to San Diego California, > AntiriadElectronics If you are going to post the same question to multiple groups, http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?filter=0&enc_author=W0VAIyEAAAAL869X_FFgnQg KyFs2UDtFaDusDwEs_HCBLxTLalqSMXTw3V1I5Wzp9OxuVAVn4iI put ALL the groups on the Groups line the 1st (and only) time you post the question. This is called cross-posting. It lets everybody see all the responses. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/fd7 8c89ed4edb9b2 Thanks for the advice. I don't usually spend much time on newsgroups :-$ > >I have been asked to move with my company to San Diego California, >> AntiriadElectronics [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It lets everybody see all the responses. > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/fd7 8c89ed4edb9b2 >Thanks for the advice. I don't usually spend much time on newsgroups :-$ > AntiriadElectronics Made obvious by your top-posting. http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:8PaSp2kKbWoJ:www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html+j ust-enough+at-*-top-*-*-message+do-not-*-*-*-original JeffM, Actually, top posting is the way posters who value the time of their readers post. Making a poor reader wade through reams of prattle in order to get to the new prattle is as discourteous as it is inefficient. Cordially, Richard Kanarek To the original poster: If you knew anything about my employment history, you'd be glad that I'm not offering you advice. <g> Still, if you're moving on the behest of your employer, I'd think that the employment situation of your new local is of little importance. Good luck in any case! >>Thanks for the advice. I don't usually spend much time on newsgroups :-$ >> AntiriadElectronics > >Made obvious by your top-posting. >http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:8PaSp2kKbWoJ:www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html+j ust-enough+at-*-top-*-*-message+do-not-*-*-*-original >>>Thanks for the advice. I don't usually spend much time on newsgroups :-$ >>> AntiriadElectronics [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >who value the time of their readers post. > Richard Kanarek Nope. . . >Making a poor reader wade through reams of prattle >in order to get to the new prattle >is as discourteous as it is inefficient. I'm just fascinated by people who think that conventions for ways of doing things are arbitrary. Systems evolve by finding what works best and disgarding what is inferior.[1] A post should read like a conversation or a narrative --not like some movie that jumps forward and back in time. I agree with your *reams of prattle* point. >From the document I cited (RFC1855): "If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you **summarize** the original **at the top of the message,** or include **just enough text of the original to give a context.**" IMO, your *who value the time of their readers* comment applies more to those who repost the entire previous comment without editing out bulk which is unnecessary for context. Just as with a book, the reader should feel free to skip to the end of a post. The greater-than notation was developed to make that easy. . . [1]There's always some iconoclast who thiks the traditions suck and, as always, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Inferior methodologies are rejected en mass. > . > [1]There's always some iconoclast who thiks the traditions suck > and, as always, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. > Inferior methodologies are rejected en mass. Anyone who was around when this mess called usenet started (such as me) would tell you that the original convention, after the advent of quoting, was to top post. The assumption was that top posting was most courteous as it saved the reader from downloading, and wading through, the entire quoted text before finding out what was new... Something that was rather important when modems worked at 300 baud. Back then, the act of quoting text was considered wasteful, and if you did it, it had better have been for a really good reason. If a lot of text needed comment, the next preference was to inject comments into the text, as the text went along. Bottom posting back then would get you a swift kick in the butt (and thus began the top posting vs bottom posting wars). Today, many of the reasons for top posting have been alleviated by fast internet connections, and large amounts of storage space, but one still exists, and IMHO should apply, and that is the case of short. topical comments. If they contain all of the necessary information, to be a complete, self contained comment on the thread, they should be at the top.... Of course, if the comment is complete and self contained, there is really no need to quote much of the article. Me, I don't really care what all you newbies do, but it does frost my cake when you pronounce from a position of ignorance that bottom posting is a "tradition", when there was 20 years of internet use before the web was invented, and bottom posting became popular. Dad-gum-whippersnappers! -Chuck >if the comment is complete and self contained, >there is really no need to quote much of the article. Here we agree --and the whole top/bottom thing is secondary to this (and the corollary: trim for minimum necessary context). . . >Anyone who was around when this mess called usenet started >(such as me) would tell you that the original convention, >after the advent of quoting, was to top post. > Chuck Harris Did your 1st newsreader automatically blockquote the whole damned previous post? IMO that's where the bigger problem lies: Clueless folks who think the machine should do the thinking for them and who won't trim the fat. . . >it does frost my cake when you pronounce from a position of ignorance >that bottom posting is a "tradition", >when there was 20 years of internet use >before the web was invented, and bottom posting became popular. >Dad-gum-whippersnappers! Watch that pulse rate, Old Timer. 8-) >>Anyone who was around when this mess called usenet started >>(such as me) would tell you that the original convention, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Did your 1st newsreader > automatically blockquote the whole damned previous post? The first news reader did not quote at all. But it did allow you to include a file. So what was done (by the highly motivated), was to include the previous post into the news reader's editor (ed), add your own comments and messages and then post. It was up to the poster to decide when and where his comments would appear. Later versions would automatically quote the entire article into the news reader's editor (usually ed), and again, it was up to the poster to decide what the final article would look like. But my point was that it was such a pain to wade through large quotes that any comment made on the whole of the note was always placed on top. This worked under the assumption that anyone following the thread would know what it was about, and if they didn't, they could take a peek at the "foot notes", just as you would with a scholarly journal. > IMO that's where the bigger problem lies: > Clueless folks who think the machine should do the thinking for them > and who won't trim the fat. Agreed. A very big problem with top posting happens when the poster just automatically quotes the entire article he is commenting on. The quotes at the tail of the article can grow and grow without notice. I use, as a general practice, a single screen as my maximum quote when I top post. But I frequently accede to the wishes of the group and just follow whatever convention they are using. > . > . [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Watch that pulse rate, Old Timer. 8-) Pulse is doing fine, thank you. -Chuck Dad-blam-it! > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > (Anonymity may be required on my part, so forgive me for not stating my > name) I guess I should answer this, but I don't have a lot of data for you. I don't know Altium's pay scales, and I don't want to get too nosy with my contacts down there... 8-) As a general ballpark, for a 5y veteran, I would expect something in the high 50s' to low 60s'. For the Senior AE, add 10-15K to that. However, I have fairly high expectations... Charlie [snip] >I guess I should answer this, but I don't have a lot of data for you. I >don't know Altium's pay scales, and I don't want to get too nosy with my [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Charlie Higher ;-) ...Jim Thompson | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. Hello Charlie, > As a general ballpark, for a 5y veteran, I would expect something in the > high 50s' to low 60s'. For the Senior AE, add 10-15K to that. However, > I have fairly high expectations... One has to seriously consider the cost of housing. In San Diego that isn't exactly on the cheap side. For example someone moving from Texas to California for 20% more pay could be mighty disappointed that a home that was 150k in Texas may run north of half a million in some areas. The property taxes will be accordingly. That can more than erode any pay advantage. Also, we have state income taxes :-( I believe there is a book that details much of that data for each metro area. "Places Rated" or something like that. Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com > Hello Charlie, > >> As a general ballpark, for a 5y veteran, I would expect something in >> the high 50s' to low 60s'. For the Senior AE, add 10-15K to that. >> However, I have fairly high expectations... High 60s is the starting salary for EE's in the Washington DC area. -Chuck |
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