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Electronics Forum / CAD / February 2005PROTEL 2004 - BUS Multiply
Could anyone let me know a valid syntax using "REPEAT" keyword to multiply a Bus in a multi channel schematic design (PROTEL 2004)? A "REPEAT (BUS [1..4])" Entry Sheet in Parent will not make vertical connection with a BUS[1..4] Port on Child Sheet. It generates errors. Cora_7, I had previously seen your post to the PEDA listserver. I am not sure that anybody understands what you are trying to do. If you didn't get an answer on the PEDA list then you are in uncharted territory or you have defined your problem in a manner that others don't understand. Are you just drawing a schematic or are you doing some VHDL, SPICE or other detailed code type input? A schematic on it's own doesn't have a repeat function, other than the good ole fashioned copy and paste. So I think you have people lost and wondering what you are doing. Just by what you have written below, I would say that you just drop the "REPEAT", do away with the brackets and your bus would connect fine between sheets, just make sure that the netlist generator has the desired net and port configuration for your design hierarchy. Don't know where you got the "REPEAT" from.  SignatureSincerely, Brad Velander > Could anyone let me know a valid syntax using "REPEAT" keyword to > multiply a Bus in a multi channel schematic design (PROTEL 2004)? > > A "REPEAT (BUS [1..4])" Entry Sheet in Parent will not make > vertical connection with a BUS[1..4] Port on Child Sheet. It generates > errors. Thanks for feed-back Brad. I'm back with some extra details for you guys: I drawing just schematic ( no VHDL, no Spice), but using multi channel design concept. The whole idea is to nest and repeat an entire sheet in other in order to simplify schematic and also PCB design. Concept it's come exactly to avoid multiple copy -paste. Take a look to "True Multi-channel Design" Bookmark on http://www.altium.com/learningguides/dxp/dxp_featurehighlights.pdf Altium provide a simple example describe on TU0112 Creating a Multi-channel Design but it don't show syntax to repeat an entire bus. Let suppose in this example that I need Bus P[1..8] and/or K[1..8] link out the sheet (Bank.SchDoc ) via a Port and get repeated four times in Parent sheet ( Detector.SchDoc ). What syntax I should have for correspondent Sheet Entry of REPEAT(PD,1,8) Sheet Symbol? By the way, If I try to compile this multi channel design example, witch come with PROTEL 2004, I get following errors: Duplicate Net Names Bus Slice K[1..8], Duplicate Net Names Bus Slice P[1..8], Wire Net Label OFF at 420,610 placed on a bus. I don't understand why. > Cora_7, > I had previously seen your post to the PEDA listserver. I am [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > generates > > errors. Cora, So I see you are using DXP, well I am not so you have me at a disadvantage but I went to the link you supplied to see what you were seeing. This "instantiation" issue is certainly new to DXP, I have never heard the term used before. However, reading the description they supply I think I have a good idea of what they are doing. Usually in the past we drew one schematic of the daughter sheet and it had multiple iterations linked through multiple sheetsymbols on the parent sheet. Seems this new system uses only one sheetsymbol on the parent sheet with this "Repeat keyword" you are trying to define. Then each daughter sheet gets X number of tabs, one for each repetition of the circuit. Ok, this is not so different than the good ole system only the schematic appears in one sheet instead of X number of virtual sheets below the parent. Then the one singular sheet has tabs to switch designators appropriately for each circuit repetition. That is my take on it anyway, new spit and polish for the old system. It is all fluff! As far as I can see the key word is a function that is built into the sheetsymbol on the parent schematic sheet. I would think that there is a keyword "Repeat" accessible for a sheetsymbol. Or you must add the keyword into the sheetsymbol some how. As for the ports, your original question, I don't think they are special in any particular way. Port AD[0..8] on the daughter sheet connects to port AD[0..8] on the parent sheet. There is nothing special about the port naming from what I can see, use the same conventions as one has always use for ports and sheetsymbols. The repeat seems to come from the Sheetsymbol and adding (or setting) the Repeat keyword for the sheetsymbol. I did some checking on the DXP website, lo and behold I found the following tutorial for multi-channel designs: http://www.altium.com/learningguides/dxp/tu_dxpmultichannels.pdf Check page 3, points 3, 4, 5 & 6. I was right it is a keyword of the sheetsymbol. SignatureSincerely, Brad Velander > Thanks for feed-back Brad. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Take a look to "True Multi-channel Design" Bookmark on http://www.altium.com/learningguides/dxp/dxp_featurehighlights.pdf > Altium provide a simple example describe on TU0112 Creating a > Multi-channel Design but it don't show syntax to repeat an entire [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > generates > > > errors. |
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