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Orcad 9.2 copper pour

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Ronnie - 03 Jan 2005 12:16 GMT
Hi,
I need some help to draw a copper pour area with Orcad 9.2.
Using fast fill copper pour , the area is filled very fast but I can't
extract Gerber Files correctly.
Using normal fill, it takes a lot of time for fill the area, also each time
I want to zoom in/out the draw.
How can I speed up this filling? Anyone know some settings or things to do?

Thanks a lot advance

Ronnie
Active8 - 03 Jan 2005 13:32 GMT
> Hi,
> I need some help to draw a copper pour area with Orcad 9.2.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I want to zoom in/out the draw.
> How can I speed up this filling? Anyone know some settings or things to do?

What OS? XP & maybe w2k -- Open admin tools | performance monitor. R
clk on the grqaph & add a memory monitor. Watch Orcad suck the life
out of your system. 9x & NT have a monitor somewhere, too.

Let us know what you find.
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Best Regards,
Mike

Dave VanHorn - 03 Jan 2005 15:31 GMT
> What OS? XP & maybe w2k -- Open admin tools | performance monitor. R
> clk on the grqaph & add a memory monitor. Watch Orcad suck the life
> out of your system. 9x & NT have a monitor somewhere, too.

I'm always amazed at the problems that "modern" cad packages have, compared
to good old dos orcad.

I bought 9.2 a while back, when it was new..  I found it totally unusable.
Everything I wanted to do came with a 20 step undocumented magic dance that
you had to do in order to get it to work.  I spent most of my days on the
phone with orcad, uninstalling, reinstalling, and discovering these
undocumented problems, that might get fixed in the next release, which
coincidentally happens just after the support runs out on this release...
:-P

It's sitting on the shelf now, and I use the last released version of DOS
orcad.
Banging schematics and boards out in hours, not weeks.
Active8 - 03 Jan 2005 19:22 GMT
>> What OS? XP & maybe w2k -- Open admin tools | performance monitor. R
>> clk on the grqaph & add a memory monitor. Watch Orcad suck the life
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> Everything I wanted to do came with a 20 step undocumented magic dance that
> you had to do in order to get it to work.
<snip>

That about sums it up. Hopefully another memory stick will fix this
guy up, but I doubt he'll have any luck with win9x or ME.

Any two of one of my CADs, Dreamweaver, Acrobat 6 Pro, or big stuff
like that is all it takes to suck my 256 MB down to nothing.
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Best Regards,
Mike

qrk - 04 Jan 2005 03:48 GMT
> > What OS? XP & maybe w2k -- Open admin tools | performance monitor. R
> > clk on the grqaph & add a memory monitor. Watch Orcad suck the life
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> orcad.
> Banging schematics and boards out in hours, not weeks.

Macro Express solves the 20-step process stupidity. Modern programmers
don't understand macros let alone command line batch files.
qrk - 04 Jan 2005 03:40 GMT
> Hi,
> I need some help to draw a copper pour area with Orcad 9.2.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Ronnie

This is a known problem in Layout. From Layout help:
<quote>
Use Fast Fill Mode
Reduces the drawing time for copper pour by using a simple pattern to
represent copper pour on your screen. This option only affects the
display of the copper pour on the screen; it does not accelerate the
actual pour process. You must disable this option before you create a
Gerber plot.
</quote>

When doing layout work, use fast fills.
When post processing to produce Gerber plots, turn off fast fill.
Generally, it is best to keep "Use Pours for Connectivity" enabled.

If you ever switch to version 10.x, you will experience the extremely
slow redraw rate for fast fill mode. The non-fast fill mode is much
faster. It's almost unusable. Thank goodness skeleton mode redraws
quickly. Unfortunately, Layout has a new gaggle of junior programmers
who have no idea what a PCB layout program is. It has taken a year to
get version 10 functional (fix all the things that were working in
version 9).

Too bad Orcad was bought out by Cadence. EMA-EDA (Cadence/Orcad VAR)
has been suggesting I move to Allegro. Are they trying to tell me
something?

---
Mark
FitzDean - 05 Jan 2005 05:36 GMT
Not only did Cadence buy OrCAD many years ago, now, all
of OrCAD development is outsourced to India.  Transition
occured when they went to 10.0 from 9.2.3.  It's been yucky
ever since.

About Allegro, I would highly recommend the switch.  It's
way more productive than Layout will ever be.

It would be nice for SOMEONE to develop an updated and
modern layout tool.  Even Allegro is a 1990ish legacy tool
with long drawn out incremental upgrades.  The best I've
seen is Mentor's Expedition series ... but $$$.

>If you ever switch to version 10.x, you will experience the extremely
>slow redraw rate for fast fill mode. The non-fast fill mode is much
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>---
>Mark
Ronnie - 10 Jan 2005 17:55 GMT
I tryed with a PENTIUM 4 3GHz 512Mb of RAM.....I think that when Orcad 9.2
was born this PC was only a dream, but nothing change, I think that the
problem is a setting.
No-one can work and wait hours to fill a copper pour!
Mah?
Other suggestions?
Thanks a lot.

> Hi,
> I need some help to draw a copper pour area with Orcad 9.2.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Ronnie
Ronnie - 11 Jan 2005 12:06 GMT
Solution: Lower the line resolution in the obstacle that will be the copper
pour speeds up the desingn time.
Ronnie

> I tryed with a PENTIUM 4 3GHz 512Mb of RAM.....I think that when Orcad 9.2
> was born this PC was only a dream, but nothing change, I think that the
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> >
> > Ronnie
 
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