PCB CAD

Thread view:

Enable EMail Alerts

Start New Thread

Thread rating:

Don Prescott - 20 Dec 2004 17:51 GMT

>OT Question] Why do you keep starting new threads, rather than

continuing

>posting in the same thread?

Cos' Google says it can't retrieve the original message

>Several of your messages could be summed up as saying "all open

source

>software sucks, and no commercial organisation would use them for
>something important, especially not pcb design".

You're twisting my words and adding your own .....yet again!! I don't
use or like phrases that have a sexual connotations like "sucks", so
PLEASE don't attribute them,in any way, to me...

>If you are happy now to retract your previous claims regarding open

source

>software in general, and concentrate on specifically pcb design

software,

>then that's fair enough. As someone who does schematic design, pcb
>design, fpga development and embedded systems programming, I have a
>tendancy to lump together a lot more under the heading "EDA" than

just pcb

>design.

What is the subject called..."PCB CAD"....! What is this special
interest group...... "electronics CAD"...Is it about servers and apps
in general...No!

>Only a half-wit, PHB would not consider using an open source

solution. I

>think in the case of pcb design software, as it stands today, few
>(outside the very lowest budget users, or those with particular
>requirements for openness) would choose it simply because there are
>commercial packages that provide a better solution for most uses. In

the

>future, as the open source packages develope, then who knows which

will

>make the most sense?

Dunno what PHB means.... but at least you agree with what I've been
saying...

>My point is not that there are open source pcb design tools available
>today that are a good choice for a commercial organisation - they are

not

>currently suitable for my own uses, and I doubt if they are suitable

for

>more than a small percentage of users. It is merely that the idea of
>dismissing open source software out of hand simply because there are
>commercial alternatives is absurd - it's an old-fashioned and out of

date

>prejudice that is being repeatedly proven unwise in other software

fields.

In conclusion, I very much doubt that open source PCB CAD will be of
interest to many commercial operations for a considerable time yet.

Prescott

Reply to this Message

info@bostonsemiconductor.com - 20 Dec 2004 22:06 GMT

> You're twisting my words and adding your own .....yet again!! I don't
> use or like phrases that have a sexual connotations like "sucks", so
> PLEASE don't attribute them,in any way, to me...

Cute. You're right, you never used sexual innuendo in your words here:

-"raw, unsupported, buggy, pieces of software "
-"Useless if you're trying to design a real product that's gotta go out
the door on time"

For the record, I intended no sexual connotation by the remark "sucks".
If you choose to view it that way, that is your right.

For the time being, I agree to disagree - I'm not even sure what you're
arguing about any more.

Reply to this Message

David - 21 Dec 2004 08:04 GMT

>>OT Question] Why do you keep starting new threads, rather than
> continuing
>>posting in the same thread?
>
> Cos' Google says it can't retrieve the original message

Strange... I haven't used google for posting, so I wouldn't know. Isn't
it easier to use a newsreader program?

>>Several of your messages could be summed up as saying "all open
> source
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> use or like phrases that have a sexual connotations like "sucks", so
> PLEASE don't attribute them,in any way, to me...

Ok - I'm happy to agree that you never used such a word. But most people
here don't read "sucks" as having any sexual connotation, but is simply an
insulting way of saying something is bad - much like calling software
"crashware", and other choice phrases that you *did* use.

>>If you are happy now to retract your previous claims regarding open
> source
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> interest group...... "electronics CAD"...Is it about servers and apps
> in general...No!

I agree - but other apps turned up in the context of your claiming that
all open source software was inferior, so counter-examples are perfectly
valid.

>>Only a half-wit, PHB would not consider using an open source
> solution. I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Dunno what PHB means.... but at least you agree with what I've been
> saying...

"Pointy Hair Boss" - are you an engineer who doesn't read Dilbert?? A PHB
is a manager with no understanding of what he is managing, and typically
believes ideas such as that you have to pay for software so that you have
someone to sue if it doesn't work (have you ever read a software license?
You can sue the supplier if the CD is scratched or the pages fall out of
the manual within 3 months, and that's about it).

>>My point is not that there are open source pcb design tools available
>>today that are a good choice for a commercial organisation - they are
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> In conclusion, I very much doubt that open source PCB CAD will be of
> interest to many commercial operations for a considerable time yet.

I agree mostly, but probably for a shorter interpretation of "considerable".

> Prescott

Reply to this Message

Electronics Forum / CAD / December 2004

PCB CAD