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Eric R Snow - 12 Sep 2007 18:35 GMT
I need to use a router in order to save 50 bucks a month for an extra
DSL line. The problem is that the router will be in one building while
the computer will be in another that's about 300 feet away. There is a
pretty open area between the buildings and I'm out in the woods. Can
this be done fairly easily?
Thanks,
Eric r Snow
mrdarrett@gmail.com - 13 Sep 2007 00:23 GMT
> I need to use a router in order to save 50 bucks a month for an extra
> DSL line. The problem is that the router will be in one building while
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> Thanks,
> Eric r Snow

For some values of "fairly easily", you can rig up a USB wifi adapter.

http://www.usbwifi.orcon.net.nz

Have fun,

Michael
Spajky - 30 Sep 2007 14:59 GMT
>> I need to use a router in order to save 50 bucks a month for an extra
>> DSL line. The problem is that the router will be in one building while
>> the computer will be in another that's about 300 feet away. There is a
>> pretty open area between the buildings and I'm out in the woods. Can
>> this be done fairly easily?

>For some values of "fairly easily", you can rig up a USB wifi adapter.
>
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>
>Michael

even more fun :-)

some more solutions on client side : See pics & data to get some clues
& ideas (text is in my native-slovene, so you won´t understand it)

DIY from standard 0dBi wifi card antenna (supplied with) on 1m cable
w/ RP-SMA conn. ... sorry, not in english yet  :-/ ...
http://www.wlan-sat.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3847
http://www.wlan-sat.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4241

DIY with wifi UsbKey for"Dummies":
http://www.wlan-sat.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=26476#26476

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Spajky - 30 Sep 2007 15:02 GMT
>> I need to use a router in order to save 50 bucks a month for an extra
>> DSL line. The problem is that the router will be in one building while
>> the computer will be in another that's about 300 feet away. There is a
>> pretty open area between the buildings and I'm out in the woods. Can
>> this be done fairly easily?

>For some values of "fairly easily", you can rig up a USB wifi adapter.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Michael

even more fun :-)

some more solutions on client side : See pics & data to get some clues
& ideas (text is in my native-slovene, so you won´t understand it)

DIY from standard 0dBi wifi card antenna (supplied with) on 1m cable
w/ RP-SMA conn. ... sorry, not in english yet  :-/ ...
http://www.wlan-sat.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=3847
http://www.wlan-sat.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4241

DIY with wifi UsbKey for"Dummies":
http://www.wlan-sat.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=26476#26476L
--
               Regards ,  SPAJKY ®
  mail addr. @ my site @ http://www.spajky.vze.com 
  5y - "Tualatin OC-ed / BX-Slot1 / inaudible setup!"
Stephen J. Rush - 13 Sep 2007 00:46 GMT
> I need to use a router in order to save 50 bucks a month for an extra
> DSL line. The problem is that the router will be in one building while
> the computer will be in another that's about 300 feet away. There is a
> pretty open area between the buildings and I'm out in the woods. Can
> this be done fairly easily?

You could use directional antennas at both ends.  Search on "wifi
cantenna" for a waveguide antenna that's easy to make out of a quart-sized
can.  The only parts you will have to buy are the coaxial connectors and
the cables to connect to your router and computer; the rest is scrap.  You
could also run cat-5e cable, but that would cost more.
Floyd L. Davidson - 13 Sep 2007 04:27 GMT
>> I need to use a router in order to save 50 bucks a month for an extra
>> DSL line. The problem is that the router will be in one building while
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>the cables to connect to your router and computer; the rest is scrap.  You
>could also run cat-5e cable, but that would cost more.

I would recommend the cable if it is possible.

Otherwise, 300 feet is not difficult with wireless.  But
there are a few things to keep in mind.  One is that
coax is a very very lossy transmission line for wireless
frequencies, and therefore it should be kept as short as
possible.  And for anything longer than a foot or two,
use *expensive* cable.

What that means simply is the location of the hardware
should be chosen to keep transmission line lengths
short.

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GKruger - 13 Sep 2007 15:35 GMT
>I need to use a router in order to save 50 bucks a month for an extra
>DSL line. The problem is that the router will be in one building while
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Thanks,
>Eric r Snow

That should not be a problem. You just need the correct antennas. In Sout
Africa I would use poynting antennas www.poynting.co.za, they clai
distances of 40 km and more (with legal power output and earth curvatur
becoming the limiting factors). I would suggest looking at somethin
similar in your area, or a local distributor.
For 300ft I would think that the more basic omni directional antenna
would be more than adequate, especially because there is an open are
between the buildings.

Regards,
Gert
Si Ballenger - 13 Sep 2007 19:22 GMT
>I need to use a router in order to save 50 bucks a month for an extra
>DSL line. The problem is that the router will be in one building while
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Thanks,
>Eric r Snow

More wifi info discussed in the below group. The buffalo products
(bottom) seem to be good for longer range wifi connections.

alt.internet.wireless

http://www.buffalotech.com/technology/our-technology/high-power/
amdx - 20 Sep 2007 12:52 GMT
>I need to use a router in order to save 50 bucks a month for an extra
> DSL line. The problem is that the router will be in one building while
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Thanks,
> Eric r Snow
I purchased this yagi antenna from MFJ.
http://www.mfjenterprises.com/products.php?prodid=MFJ-1800
It is the highest gain antenna I've got and I've built different5 so far.
At $29.95 it's cheap, however the shipping is was about $12.
Also you may need to buy a USB adapter with an RF output
connector. As someone else said, RF cable is lossy at this frequency,
so us as little as possible.
 I eliminated RF cable completely by attaching a connector directly to
a USB dongle and then connecting this to the antenna. Then from the
dongle I run USB cable to the computer. 15ft of USB cable is about the
limit unless you add line amplifiers.
                          Mike
Dave - 23 Sep 2007 00:34 GMT
>> I need to use a router in order to save 50 bucks a month for an extra
>> DSL line. The problem is that the router will be in one building while
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> limit unless you add line amplifiers.
>                            Mike

There's a news group for wireless stuff, you may want to ask there.
But in the mean time, there are a few wireless routers that can pump out
quite a bit of power. WHR-HP-G54 is one.
That combined with DD-wrt firmware, makes it a kick-a.s combination.

Do a google search on dd-wrt. They build after market firmware that can
be loaded on many of the wireless routers available. It gives a plain
jane router the capabilities of the high dollar routers.
And the best thing is that it is free!

Dave
 
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