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Laptop AC Adapter with fluctuating DC output

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slider123456@lincon.com - 29 Jun 2007 07:10 GMT
I have a dell laptop that won't power on or charge the battery but
ran fine on battery until the battery lost its charge . I checked the
DC output of the AC adapter with a multimeter and it constantly
fluctuates from 18.5v - 19.5v.

I have another laptop a toshiba which happens to have an adapter with
the same output 130w 19.5v  6.7a and when I measured it the output
stayed at exactly 19.3v.

The toshiba adapter has a 2 prong input from the AC plugin and the
Dell adapter has a 3 pronged plugin on the AC side. Is the fluctuation
on this type of Dell ac adapter normal?  Or is the fluctuating DC
output the reason that the laptop won't start or charge the battery?
Meat Plow - 29 Jun 2007 12:49 GMT
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:10:35 -0700, slider123456 wrote:

>  I have a dell laptop that won't power on or charge the battery but
> ran fine on battery until the battery lost its charge . I checked the
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> on this type of Dell ac adapter normal?  Or is the fluctuating DC
> output the reason that the laptop won't start or charge the battery?

Fluctuation is not normal backed up by the fact that the adapter won't
charge the battery or provide running power.
Bob Masta - 29 Jun 2007 13:17 GMT
> I have a dell laptop that won't power on or charge the battery but
>ran fine on battery until the battery lost its charge . I checked the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>on this type of Dell ac adapter normal?  Or is the fluctuating DC
>output the reason that the laptop won't start or charge the battery?

Did you measure that fluctuating Dell adapter output with
an appropriate load applied?  I have seen this sort of behavior
from an unloaded adapter, which technicians decided was OK
since it was the right voltage range.  But as soon as a decent
load was applied, the output dropped to zero.  

Best regards,

Bob Masta

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slider123456@lincon.com - 30 Jun 2007 03:05 GMT
> > I have a dell laptop that won't power on or charge the battery but
> >ran fine on battery until the battery lost its charge . I checked the
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I did not test the output under load. I would like to so I can see
what happens but I am not sure what I should use as a load. Using the
laptop is very hard since the motherboard has to come out in order to
have access to the pins for testing. The adapter output is rated for
19.5 volts 6.7 amps. Do you have any suggestion for what I could use
as a load so I can test the adapter
geoffturner - 30 Jun 2007 09:34 GMT
On Jun 30, 3:05 am, slider123...@lincon.com wrote:

> > > I have a dell laptop that won't power on or charge the battery but
> > >ran fine on battery until the battery lost its charge . I checked the
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> 19.5 volts 6.7 amps. Do you have any suggestion for what I could use
> as a load so I can test the adapter

Use the laptop as a load
Bob Masta - 30 Jun 2007 13:43 GMT
> I did not test the output under load. I would like to so I can see
>what happens but I am not sure what I should use as a load. Using the
>laptop is very hard since the motherboard has to come out in order to
>have access to the pins for testing. The adapter output is rated for
>19.5 volts 6.7 amps. Do you have any suggestion for what I could use
>as a load so I can test the adapter

You don't need to draw the full 6.7 amps, just something reasonable.
Even pulling an amp or less will probably be enough to show if the
adapter is shot... at least it was in my case.

The biggest problem is often making connection to the output of the
power adapter.   In my case, I just stuffed the leads of the resistor
into the holes of  the adapter, with the meter clipped onto the leads.

If you have a power resistor (bigger than  19.5/6.7 = 2.9 ohms but
less than say 20 ohms) you can try that, or wire a bunch of
lesser-wattage resistors together.  You won't need to test for more
than a second or so, just enough to get the reading:  Low-wattage
resistors may get hot really fast, but you can get a reading just
before you burn your fingers. <g>  (And getting hot is a Good Thing,
since it tells you the adapter is at least putting out juice... mine
wasn't.)

Note that when you combining low-wattage resistors to get a
higher power rating, it dosen't matter (to the effective power
rating) whether they are in series or parallel.  So 10 x 1 ohm
1/4 watt resistors in series gives 10 ohms at 10*(1/4) = 2.5 watts.
Or 10 x 100 ohms in parallel gives the same thing.

Best regards,

Bob Masta

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