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lerameur - 26 Jun 2007 17:23 GMT
hello

I am winding an electromagnet  with some 29awg magnetic wire. I want
to make to electromagnet with the same strength, but one core is about
3 time as big as the first. With the small core I get 185 Amp-turn
with 480 turn (31ohm).
The second core (bigger one) has a calculated 221.2 amp-turn with 700
turns and 38 ohm. because there is 3 times the metal I divided that by
3 so I get  a 79 Amp-turn electromagnet with respect to the first
electromagnet.
How do I make the big core magnet the same strength as the smaller
one ?
If I use more turn, oddly enough I get even less amp-turn.
Without changing the wire gauge, is there a way to get the same
magnetic strength ( approximately 660 amp-turn ) with the big
electromagnet ?

thanks

Ken
Jon Slaughter - 26 Jun 2007 17:40 GMT
> hello
>
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> magnetic strength ( approximately 660 amp-turn ) with the big
> electromagnet ?

Run windings in parallel, in this way you reduce the resistance of just
having one long winding. You can easily double or triple the amp-turns by
doing this.(of course now you might end up having to deal with heating
issues)
Eeyore - 26 Jun 2007 23:19 GMT
> hello
>
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> How do I make the big core magnet the same strength as the smaller
> one ?

The field strength depends on more than just the core area. You need to factor
in the permeability of the material, the core magnetic path length and and take
account of the influence of any air gaps too.

Graham
lerameur - 27 Jun 2007 01:16 GMT
On Jun 27, 1:19 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> > hello
>
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> Graham

Indeed, but I just a rough estimate here. I just came up with two
problems. I hand sawed the excess of waffer stack. Somebody told me
that this will create a short circuit. but guess what, I did not see
anything between the waffers and this stuff is non conductive, so it
should mind no ???
Also I was suprised by some calculation i did on an excel file. I get
the same amp-turn no matter how many turn I make. The only difference
is the resistance. Is this right ??
You can get the file here:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/lerameur/motor_core_calculation.xls

ken
 
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