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At what frequencies does a ground plane become important??

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rylmp2k1 - 29 Apr 2007 18:44 GMT
Would a 555 square wave oscillator running at 30Khz work any better
with or without a ground plane?  I need the harmonics unhindered.
Tom Biasi - 29 Apr 2007 18:52 GMT
> Would a 555 square wave oscillator running at 30Khz work any better
> with or without a ground plane?  I need the harmonics unhindered.

A ground plane for what?
rylmp2k1 - 29 Apr 2007 19:53 GMT
On Apr 29, 1:52 pm, "Tom Biasi" <tombiasi@********optonline.net>
wrote:

> > Would a 555 square wave oscillator running at 30Khz work any better
> > with or without a ground plane?  I need the harmonics unhindered.
>
> A ground plane for what?

Ground plane for the copper clad circuit board.
Eeyore - 29 Apr 2007 20:09 GMT
> > > Would a 555 square wave oscillator running at 30Khz work any better
> > > with or without a ground plane?  I need the harmonics unhindered.
> >
> > A ground plane for what?
>
> Ground plane for the copper clad circuit board.

LOL !

Surreal.

Graham
Chuck - 29 Apr 2007 23:14 GMT
> On Apr 29, 1:52 pm, "Tom Biasi" <tombiasi@********optonline.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Ground plane for the copper clad circuit board.

Which harmonics? The 10th is only 300kHz
and as John pointed out, pc board
distances are unlikely to matter much.
By the 100th harmonic (which is going to
be very weak coming from a 555) if you
look hard, you might find some pc board
influence.

Chuck
Eeyore - 29 Apr 2007 19:11 GMT
> Would a 555 square wave oscillator running at 30Khz work any better
> with or without a ground plane?

Define better.

Graham
John Popelish - 29 Apr 2007 20:03 GMT
> Would a 555 square wave oscillator running at 30Khz work any better
> with or without a ground plane?  I need the harmonics unhindered.

A well bypassed and layed out 555 would not work measurably
better on a ground plane board, except, possibly for
radiated EMI.  The added capacitive load of the ground plane
under the traces may actually slow the rise and fall time of
the output, very slightly.
jasen - 30 Apr 2007 08:43 GMT
> Would a 555 square wave oscillator running at 30Khz work any better
> with or without a ground plane?  I need the harmonics unhindered.

at 30Khz a ground plane is unneccesary unless you're seeing harmonics where
you don't want them.

Bye.
  Jasen
 
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