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Walt Fles - 26 Apr 2007 21:37 GMT A princess walked into Radio Shack holding a frog. And she said to the sales person, "can you help me with this, my prince got turned into a frog"?
So the salesperson sold her a TTL 7404.
Tom Biasi - 26 Apr 2007 22:45 GMT >A princess walked into Radio Shack holding a frog. And she said to > the sales person, > "can you help me with this, my prince got turned into a frog"? > > So the salesperson sold her a TTL 7404. With all due respect, that joke goes back to the 70's. :-)
For you young folk, a TTL 7404 is a HEX Inverter.
Tom
Walt Fles - 27 Apr 2007 00:29 GMT >> A princess walked into Radio Shack holding a frog. And she said to >> the sales person, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Tom At least somebody from my generation got it.
notbob - 27 Apr 2007 00:34 GMT > At least somebody from my generation got it. Yeah, but can they read sanskrit?
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Michael A. Terrell - 27 Apr 2007 01:43 GMT > >> A princess walked into Radio Shack holding a frog. And she said to > >> the sales person, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tom > At least somebody from my generation got it. The real joke is that someone from Radio Shack even KNEW what a 7404 was.
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Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
Lord Garth - 27 Apr 2007 05:32 GMT > > > For you young folk, a TTL 7404 is a HEX Inverter. > > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The real joke is that someone from Radio Shack even KNEW what a 7404 > was. You've got questions, they have blank stares (and a cellular to sell you).
Michael A. Terrell - 27 Apr 2007 06:23 GMT > You've got questions, they have blank stares (and a cellular to sell you). You've got questions, they have blank stares (and minds).
 Signature Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
ehsjr - 27 Apr 2007 21:16 GMT >>You've got questions, they have blank stares (and a cellular to sell you). > > You've got questions, they have blank stares (and minds). They have minds?
Ed
Michael A. Terrell - 27 Apr 2007 21:21 GMT > >>You've got questions, they have blank stares (and a cellular to sell you). > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Ed Sure, but they come off the same production line as "Dummy Components" They look real, and have real leads, but there is nothing inside the package..
<http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GWYA,GWYA:2006-31,G WYA:en&q=Dummy+Components>
 Signature Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
Homer J Simpson - 27 Apr 2007 07:15 GMT >> The real joke is that someone from Radio Shack even KNEW what a 7404 >> was. > You've got questions, they have blank stares (and a cellular to sell you). "You've got questions, they've got pimples".
Stephen J. Rush - 27 Apr 2007 09:21 GMT >> > > For you young folk, a TTL 7404 is a HEX Inverter. >> > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > You've got questions, they have blank stares (and a cellular to sell you). It was different in the TRS-80 era. For a while, you could actually buy all of the parts for an 8080-based computer (but not a Z-80, go figure) there, and some of their employees were hardware hackers.
Of course, those were exceptions. I once asked to see the character set of one of their oddball printers (the one that had a steel platen drum with a star-shaped cross section). It was connected to a running computer, so the counterdroid started typing PRINT "ABCD...". I asked him why he didn't just use a FOR loop, and got a blank stare.
Doug Miller - 27 Apr 2007 14:05 GMT >> The real joke is that someone from Radio Shack even KNEW what a 7404 was. >> >You've got questions, they have blank stares (and a cellular to sell you). That's *so* true. I have three Rat Shack stores nearby, with apparently only one competent employee between them. "Hookup wire? You mean speaker wire?"
 Signature Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)
It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.
Walt Fles - 27 Apr 2007 21:22 GMT > In article <Q1fYh.1378$tp5....@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net>, "Lord Garth" <LGa...@Tantalus.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. There is nothing better than being a hobbyist and seeing them rip out 25 pair wire. I once had 50 feet of that from a place I worked at, and I stripped it and cut it up and made all my friends in college happy with all this wire they didn't have to pay for!
Michael A. Terrell - 28 Apr 2007 00:16 GMT > There is nothing better than being a hobbyist and seeing them rip out > 25 pair wire. > I once had 50 feet of that from a place I worked at, and I stripped it > and cut it up and > made all my friends in college happy with all this wire they didn't > have to pay for! 25 feet? you would have freaked out of 16 feet of brand new 200 pair, or the thousands of feet I've salvaged over the past 40 years. In fact, I have salvaged and reused entire 1A2 key phone systems, both five and ten line, which used 50 pair.
 Signature Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
Lord Garth - 28 Apr 2007 01:17 GMT <snip>
> 25 feet? you would have freaked out of 16 feet of brand new 200 > pair, or the thousands of feet I've salvaged over the past 40 years. In > fact, I have salvaged and reused entire 1A2 key phone systems, both five > and ten line, which used 50 pair. Sadly, the metal reclaim depots will not accept insulated wire. The city frowns of people burning off the insulation as well.
Unless you can build a machine that can do the job, it's not economical even with the rise in prices.
Michael A. Terrell - 28 Apr 2007 02:25 GMT > <snip> > > 25 feet? you would have freaked out of 16 feet of brand new 200 [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Unless you can build a machine that can do the job, it's not economical > even with the rise in prices. Motor driven metal rollers can crush the isolation, leaving bare copper. Some large copiers have nice gear driven roller sets. You only need the right speed motor, and a guide plate with holes for different wire gauges.
 Signature Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
Lord Garth - 28 Apr 2007 02:48 GMT > > Sadly, the metal reclaim depots will not accept insulated wire. The city > > frowns of people burning off the insulation as well. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > need the right speed motor, and a guide plate with holes for different > wire gauges. Does this work only on the individual wires or could a complete CAT5 cable be run through?
There was a large copy machine by the building dumpster yesterday as luck would have it. I thought of ripping the motor(s) out but didn't get around to it.
When I wired this office I'm sitting in now, I created four five foot high piles of CAT5 that were probably 15 feet in diameter, from the removal of the old wiring. I'm sure it was good money to someone that could strip it.
Michael A. Terrell - 28 Apr 2007 03:02 GMT > > > Sadly, the metal reclaim depots will not accept insulated wire. The > city [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > of the old wiring. I'm sure it was good money to someone that could > strip it. It will, but it would probably take several passes. One to remove the jacket, and another to strip the twisted pairs. I would cut it into short pieces so that a single strand could be run through at a time, so that it doesn't crush the copper into tiny bits. Six feet is usually short enough to separate in a few seconds per pair. My design was for electrical wire, but it can be scaled up, or down for other sizes.
BTW, I have been trying to arrange some oral surgery for a long time. If I don't get it soon, I probably won't be around much longer. The antibiotics run out tomorrow morning, and every oral surgeon in my area has taken one look at the xray and refused to even attempt to remove the infected teeth. The Florida State Dental school wants $110 a tooth for emergency extractions, then they play a lousy lottery game with their potential patients every day. It's a 90 minute trip for me to get to the college. You have to be there before 7:00 AM, then after everyone has registered, they draw names of those they will treat, that day. That means that i have to find someone willing and able to take a day off from work, until i finally get treatment. Also, they only do one tooth per patient, per day.
 Signature Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
Lord Garth - 28 Apr 2007 04:07 GMT > BTW, I have been trying to arrange some oral surgery for a long > time. If I don't get it soon, I probably won't be around much longer. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > day off from work, until i finally get treatment. Also, they only do > one tooth per patient, per day. Can the VA help you?
Michael A. Terrell - 28 Apr 2007 04:23 GMT > > BTW, I have been trying to arrange some oral surgery for a long > > time. If I don't get it soon, I probably won't be around much longer. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Can the VA help you? Not anymore. Our wonderful CONgress has passed a law making it illegal for the VA to do dental work, unless it is directly service connected, or until a Veteran has been homeless in excess of 60 days. They are allowed to do it, at exorbitant rates, and will take it out of my next pension check(s). If I pay their price, I will be homeless. I have 11 teeth left, but two are so bad that I wake up screaming in pain.
 Signature Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
Lord Garth - 30 Apr 2007 01:14 GMT > > Can the VA help you? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > my next pension check(s). If I pay their price, I will be homeless. I > have 11 teeth left, but two are so bad that I wake up screaming in pain. A friend had an infected root in a molar. I took him to the dentist on a weekend. The x-ray showed just how much bone loss was involved.
The dentist deaden the area then simply drained it by using a probe to pierce the gum. This virtually ended the pain and allows the bone to heal. Antibiotics help with the infection if you can get them.
A crown is required but that can wait a while.
notbob - 30 Apr 2007 01:37 GMT > heal. Antibiotics help with the infection if you can get them. If you don't get them, the dentist is incompetent. I had one fail to give me antibiotics and actually sealed up the opening in the tooth ...twice!. It reinfected both times. He then went on vacation and hung me out to dry. I had to find another dentist and have it done properly ...antibiotics and left open to drain. If I ever run across the first SOB in a dark alley, he's gonna need a dentist.
nb
jasen - 28 Apr 2007 07:48 GMT >> There is nothing better than being a hobbyist and seeing them rip out >> 25 pair wire. >> I once had 50 feet of that from a place I worked at, and I stripped it >> and cut it up and >> made all my friends in college happy with all this wire they didn't >> have to pay for!
> 25 feet? you would have freaked out of 16 feet of brand new 200 > pair, or the thousands of feet I've salvaged over the past 40 years. In > fact, I have salvaged and reused entire 1A2 key phone systems, both five > and ten line, which used 50 pair. when I was in primary school I scored 20m of 5O pair cable (in 5 pieces) it lasted me (and friends) a until I finished university.
among other things I soldered many pieces together and I used it for the intercom I built (if you use 20V you can go hands-free with the carbon microphones and speakers from old phones)
Bye. Jasen
Michael A. Terrell - 28 Apr 2007 15:44 GMT > >> There is nothing better than being a hobbyist and seeing them rip out > >> 25 pair wire. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Bye. > Jasen At one time I had a full, 1000 foot spool of 25 pair cable and a half dozen new 66 series blocks donated to the Christian TV station where I worked. I used it to install wiring for telethons and to allow emergency telephones to be plugged into the office and studio phone lines in case of an emergency, when no AC power was available. It saved a lot of time over the previous method of running whatever you needed that day with 4 conductor "Station" wire.
 Signature Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
Lord Garth - 27 Apr 2007 05:31 GMT > >> A princess walked into Radio Shack holding a frog. And she said to > >> the sales person, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tom > At least somebody from my generation got it. Make that at least two.... but it's a boo joke!
PhattyMo - 27 Apr 2007 01:02 GMT >> A princess walked into Radio Shack holding a frog. And she said to >> the sales person, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Tom I was gonna say,it must be an old joke..RatShak didn't even carry logic gates anymore,the last time I was in there,looking for one. You'd be lucky to find anything *OTHER* than a crappy cellphone or crappy PC in a RS store these days.
Walt Fles - 27 Apr 2007 02:19 GMT >>> A princess walked into Radio Shack holding a frog. And she said to >>> the sales person, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > You'd be lucky to find anything *OTHER* than a crappy cellphone or > crappy PC in a RS store these days. I think I read it in a copy of Popular Electronics or maybe Elementary Electronics. I can still build logic and solve a Karnaugh map 20 years after graduating from college - but heck if I know what goes on in a Northbridge.
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