> gethostbyn...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I am looking for a way to control the power (the water temperature if
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> would be the quietest and smoothest as far as the AC line is
> concerned.
Can you explain better about integral cycle pulse control please?
Maybe, some book.
:-) I will study officially power electronics this year.
The motorized variable transformer will be very much expensive to me.
> No particular need to worry about waste heat, since that is
> what you are producing. Just heat sink the control elements
> to the cold water upstream of the heater.
The water could damage other circuit components. I would like to put
the control circuit in a plastic box with a little opening to a
possible potenciometer.
> A PID feedback controller with feed forward (power
> predicting feature) capability on either water flow rate or
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> mixed (some backward mixing of heated and unheated water)
> and larger.
You have reason.
Anyway, the control speed isn't so important preoccupation to me. I
just would like to adapt the temperature control to common showers
(when there isn't a mixing between heated and unheated water) in the
best way possible and, of course, viable economically.
Thank you,
PH
John Popelish - 26 Feb 2007 14:06 GMT
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> Can you explain better about integral cycle pulse control please?
> Maybe, some book.
> :-) I will study officially power electronics this year.
(snip)
Phase control involves turning on a latching device, like an
SCR or TRIAC at the same fraction of each half cycle, and
the device remains on till the next current zero crossing.
Power is varied by changing the timing of where in each half
cycle that power is switched on.
Integral cycle control involves turning on the switching
device just after a voltage zero crossing, so that an entire
half cycle of line voltage is passed, so that there are no
fast voltage rises in the waveform. Power is controlled by
changing the number of complete cycles, in some time
interval, that are passed to the load and the remainder that
are blocked. Usually, the cycles that are passed are all
together in a group, and the ones blocked are also together
in a group, but the power control is smoother if the
groupings are eliminated and the ratio of passed and blocked
cycles are mixed as well as possible. With a microprocessor
that has a line cycle input, to synchronize the timing to
the line zero crossings, this process can be done almost
entirely in software, as can the feedback PIC control
function, whose output decides the fraction of power cycles
passed.
While it is not so important that each positive half cycle
delivered is immediately followed by the negative half
cycle, it is important that it is impossible for the
controller to supply only positive or only negative half
cycles, because this would put a DC component back into the
line power source, and that isn't good for the transformers
in the distribution system.
See:
http://www.athenacontrols.com/pages/fund.html
http://www.ccipower.com/support/control_modes.php
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6849834-description.html
There are also special purpose solid state relays that
accept a control voltage and generate the variable duty
cycle burst of line cycles in proportion to the control voltage.
http://www.crydom.com//userResources/productFamilies/50/crydom_pcv.pdf