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hello guys any idea on amplifying WiFi 2.4Ghz Signal

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dSaINt}S{ - 28 Jun 2006 11:02 GMT
hello guys any idea on amplifying WiFi 2.4Ghz Signal?
Eeyore - 28 Jun 2006 13:22 GMT
> hello guys any idea on amplifying WiFi 2.4Ghz Signal?

Damn Google !

Graham
Phil Allison - 28 Jun 2006 13:38 GMT
"Eeyore"

>> hello guys any idea on amplifying WiFi 2.4Ghz Signal?
>
> Damn Google !
>
> Graham

**  Good too see you agree with me on ONE thing,  at least.

.......  Phil
Eeyore - 28 Jun 2006 22:20 GMT
> "Eeyore"
> >
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> .......  Phil

I often agree with you actually Phil.

It seems that Google groups has replaced WebTV as the finest source of inane
posts.

Graham
dSaINt}S{ - 29 Jun 2006 03:45 GMT
Hello everyone here seems to be extra helpful bunch of kiddies who
still suck enough on a daily basis

> > "Eeyore"
> > >
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> Graham
dSaINt}S{ - 29 Jun 2006 03:52 GMT
And also Eyore at first grow some initiative and learn stuff and face
problems if you dont know how to work with RF amplifiers to work on a
simple wifi booster just say so and i think you might need to mature a
bit - this is a bloody basic electronics fora and kids with such a
temper as yours are ruining it

> Hello everyone here seems to be extra helpful bunch of kiddies who
> still suck enough on a daily basis
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> >
> > Graham
Eeyore - 29 Jun 2006 04:04 GMT
> And also Eyore at first grow some initiative and learn stuff and face
> problems if you dont know how to work with RF amplifiers to work on a
> simple wifi booster just say so and i think you might need to mature a
> bit - this is a bloody basic electronics fora and kids with such a
> temper as yours are ruining it

Well.......    Since you're here..............

First off a post from someone posting as   " dSaINt}S{ "   from google groups with a
gmail address doesn't get much credibility. Especially when the question is very
vague. Do you know about Usenet and nntp btw ?

Your ISP does actually provide the right means......
News (NNTP) Server: news.terra.net.lb
http://corp.terra.net.lb/Support/TechnicalInfo.asp

Since you're talking wi-fi that means 2 way communication. An amplifier only works
one way so your question was critically flawed anyway.

Have you tried using a better antenna ? That's the simplest answer.

And on the temper front - I reckon you need to get a grip ! No temper here but you
seem a bit hot under the collar.

Graham ( age 52 btw )
dSaINt}S{ - 29 Jun 2006 04:17 GMT
No our isps in malta does not use News servers im sorry form my google
usage is it suck a problem if you use google. I will try another news
server :) thankyou Graham age 52

and as for an amplifier it works it is called a wifi booster or simply
a two way amplifier I am a computer security specialist and again my
ISP is not the one you linked ;)

You have to pay attention and not  use to much power and that is a
concern

Thankyou and excuse me for my bad temper - but I am quite new to usenet
and it seems so full of spam sometimes

> > And also Eyore at first grow some initiative and learn stuff and face
> > problems if you dont know how to work with RF amplifiers to work on a
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> Graham ( age 52 btw )
Phil Allison - 29 Jun 2006 04:30 GMT
"dSaINt}S{"

> and as for an amplifier it works it is called a wifi booster or simply
> a two way amplifier I am a computer security specialist and again my
> ISP is not the one you linked ;)

** Like these ?

http://www.hyperlinktech.com/web/wifi_booster.php

Lots of other places  *sell*  them.

.......   Phil
dSaINt}S{ - 29 Jun 2006 04:34 GMT
Yes i know that loads of places sell them I am just intrested in
getting a grab on the circuit to better an apple air port because those
cannot support booster because of the lack of antenna out they use
built in antennas

and btw the antenna i am using is 27db parbolic dish my coverage
reaches 5.4 miles at full signal strength and sorry for my bad temper
guys but everytime i use a news gropup everyonje screws up because i am
not using NNTP i dont have neither does my ISP i am  trying to get hold
of one :)

any ideas
> "dSaINt}S{"
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>
> .......   Phil
Phil Allison - 29 Jun 2006 04:38 GMT
"dSaINt}S{"

> Yes i know that loads of places sell them I am just intrested in
> getting a grab on the circuit ...

** Why ?

Do you imagine  YOU  can make one ?

" I am a computer security specialist .. "

Shame you are not an RF engineer.

.......   Phil
dSaINt}S{ - 29 Jun 2006 04:43 GMT
Yeah Shame on me thats why i came and asked someone  but casually its
the only time i logged in a newsgroup and getting no help at all - just
kiddin

No just want to understand the technology behind it because this device
elevates the possibility of holes in WEP security protocol. It seem no
one here is an RF engineer but right its just a shame

> "dSaINt}S{"
> >
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>
> .......   Phil
Eeyore - 29 Jun 2006 04:51 GMT
> Yeah Shame on me thats why i came and asked someone  but casually its
> the only time i logged in a newsgroup and getting no help at all - just
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> elevates the possibility of holes in WEP security protocol. It seem no
> one here is an RF engineer but right its just a shame

Strangely enough it's something I'm quite literally looking at right now in the
2.4GHz band.

Graham
dSaINt}S{ - 29 Jun 2006 05:01 GMT
on the spoofing claim my ISP does not have a proper mailserver aimed at
their users maybe that lebanon one hase something to do with the
bandwith provision :)

regarding wifi and high range i am using a CISCO router with a parbolic
antenna and a glorified cantenna
Eeyore - 29 Jun 2006 05:05 GMT
> on the spoofing claim my ISP does not have a proper mailserver aimed at
> their users maybe that lebanon one hase something to do with the
> bandwith provision :)

Can you explain why your IP address is shown as belonging to Terranet in Malta
though ?

> regarding wifi and high range i am using a CISCO router with a parbolic
> antenna and a glorified cantenna

What's the power level ? " cantenna" ????  that's a new one to me.

Graham
dSaINt}S{ - 29 Jun 2006 05:10 GMT
Simple because my isp is terranet in malta :) and not lebanon

Cantenna ( use google is a canister antenna with a yagi in it for a
direction this is aimed at a parabolic antenna obviously it is done
with meticolous calculations.

it is a Wifi based upon the 54mbps protocol becuase i was experimenting
i did not want to destroy 108 router better one which is stroung enough

I am new to electronics but want this as a hobby
Eeyore - 29 Jun 2006 05:22 GMT
> Simple because my isp is terranet in malta :) and not lebanon

So my IP lookup was right then ?

Why don't you try      news.terra.net.lb         then ?

I just tried it and it answers with a request for a username and password like
it should ! So it works and it's probably free for you. Just use your normal
username and p/w. Do you need advice about a proper newsreader ?

> Cantenna ( use google is a canister antenna with a yagi in it for a
> direction this is aimed at a parabolic antenna obviously it is done
> with meticolous calculations.
>
> it is a Wifi based upon the 54mbps protocol

802.11g   I presume ?

> becuase i was experimenting
> i did not want to destroy 108 router better one which is stroung enough

" 108 router " ???

> I am new to electronics but want this as a hobby

Good luck !

Graham
dSaINt}S{ - 29 Jun 2006 05:32 GMT
Password did not work - i asked the customer care team :)

108 is a new type of router that can accept power on lan through
wireless its damn expensive and its reserved for cisco specialists.

Do you like Wi Fi?
Eeyore - 29 Jun 2006 05:42 GMT
> Password did not work - i asked the customer care team :)

I've had that problem with *one* other news server. Maybe you need a different
p/w for news ?

Btw - I'll recommend *Netscape 4.9* for news ! ( search Netscape's archives )
The 7.1 version is still ok too but more clutter imho. 4.9 is simple and
effective with no clutter.

> 108 is a new type of router that can accept power on lan through
> wireless its damn expensive and its reserved for cisco specialists.

OK.

> Do you like Wi Fi?

I haven't actually used it ( I'm hard-wired here ) . My interest in 2.4 GHz is
for wireless audio.

Graham
dSaINt}S{ - 29 Jun 2006 05:34 GMT
Graham maybe I see you later on when i get news server - I am leaving
now because i pissed off quite some people using google Phil got angry
at me lol :) C u

Regards

Bernard
Eeyore - 29 Jun 2006 05:43 GMT
> Graham maybe I see you later on when i get news server - I am leaving
> now because i pissed off quite some people using google Phil got angry
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>
> Bernard

Ok - Later.

My email here is valid ( although somewhat unusual - an anti-spam measure) btw.

Graham
Phil Allison - 29 Jun 2006 04:53 GMT
"dSaINt}S{"

**  Piss off  -  w.nker.

.......  Phil
Eeyore - 29 Jun 2006 04:49 GMT
> Yes i know that loads of places sell them I am just intrested in
> getting a grab on the circuit to better an apple air port because those
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> any ideas

Yes.     http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php     $ 2.95 ( USD ) a month.

If you can do 5.4 mi over 802.11 x  I'm interested !

You'll also avoid causing bad tempers by not *top-posting* !!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_posting

Graham
dSaINt}S{ - 29 Jun 2006 04:54 GMT
Thankyou Graham for your help also excuse me for being illiterate on
newsgroups i normally scan newsgroups for security reasons - i am
specialized in encryption
Eeyore - 29 Jun 2006 05:02 GMT
> Thankyou Graham for your help

You're welcome.

> also excuse me for being illiterate on newsgroups

No problem - as a newbie you can quickly mend your ways !

> i normally scan newsgroups for security reasons - i am
> specialized in encryption

I would genuinely be interested in details about your long range at 2.4GHz. It's
something I have to look into.

Graham
Eeyore - 29 Jun 2006 04:44 GMT
> No our isps in malta does not use News servers im sorry form my google
> usage is it suck a problem if you use google. I will try another news
> server :) thankyou Graham age 52

Google Groups provides an utterly crippled interface to usenet.

> and as for an amplifier it works it is called a wifi booster or simply
> a two way amplifier

So why were you asking ? But not an 'amplifier' as you originally asked.

> I am a computer security specialist and again my
> ISP is not the one you linked ;)

Your headers suggest you're posting from 195.158.71.128

" NNTP-Posting-Host:         195.158.71.128 "
Rest of headers snipped.

Are you spoofing ?

Which is ...........

inetnum:      195.158.64.0 - 195.158.127.255
org:          ORG-TL5-RIPE
netname:      MT-MEGABYTE-970905
descr:        PROVIDER LIR
descr:        TerraNet Ltd
country:      MT
admin-c:      TM2960-RIPE
tech-c:       TM2960-RIPE
status:       ALLOCATED PA
mnt-by:       RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-lower:    AS5532-MNT
mnt-routes:   AS5532-MNT
source:       RIPE # Filtered
organisation:   ORG-TL5-RIPE
org-name:       Terranet Ltd
org-type:       LIR
address:        Terranet Limited
               Dolphin Centre
               Main Street
               Balzan
               BZN08
               MALTA

With an NNTP server at

News (NNTP) Server: news.terra.net.lb
http://corp.terra.net.lb/Support/TechnicalInfo.asp

Graham
Phil Allison - 28 Jun 2006 13:40 GMT
> hello guys any idea on amplifying WiFi 2.4Ghz Signal?

**  Sure -  just connect it up to the Magnetron in your microwave oven.

    Imagine  800 watts of   POWER !!

......  Phil
jasen - 29 Jun 2006 12:18 GMT
> hello guys any idea on amplifying WiFi 2.4Ghz Signal?

high gain antenna?

-- a 2M reflector would probably get you an imporessive improvement.

trying to amplify the signal inside the wires will likely run you up
against the laws of the land, or of thermal noise, dependinbg which
end of signal the path you do it at.

Bye.
  Jasen
techie_alison - 29 Jun 2006 19:11 GMT
> hello guys any idea on amplifying WiFi 2.4Ghz Signal?

Hi OP,

Simply I'm guessing that you're having wifi issues with a PC and your
router.  If you are...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160001834473

Those 3com cards are totally excellent.  Recently I've just bought a
newbuild house, the ones where instead of woodframe walls with plasterboard
and plaster on them, they now put up a metal mesh (Faraday cage??) and
plaster straight onto that.  IT IS an ABSOLUTE bloody nightmare with all
things of a radio nature.

I've been through the Belkins, the BTs, and some other cheap thing that I
was assured was marvelous by the salesman.  In the past I've had good
experience with 3Com kit so went with the exact model you see in that eBay
link up above.  It works!!  Either because 3Com are building decent kit, or
because the others are simply crap from the very beginning in the first
place.  Alot of the wifi kit out there isn't very good to be honest.

But on the subject of 2.4Ghz and long range.  One of our guys had a wifi
network running from Cambridge Science Park right across Cambridge by about
2 miles not far from Addenbrookes (a long way!!).  The aerials were like a
long metal rod with lots of equally spaced washers on it.  Who knows if this
would work now with the amount of wifi about but it worked then (about 5
years go, 802.11a???).  Maybe this gives you a few ideas to look into.

:)
dSaINt}S{ - 30 Jun 2006 12:11 GMT
Antennas are quite good solutions and repreaters would result in having
sparsed boosters running around in diverse locations but it is
important for me to discover the implications of such circuitry used to
amplify merely for curiosity and for developing and type of repeater
and beacon for wireless devices :)

Regards to All

Parabolic, Canantenna, Yagi Antenna are quite good and impressive
 
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