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circuit for separating ISDN from DSL

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M. Bayerer - 28 Apr 2006 13:12 GMT
Hello newsgroup,
we are three enthusiasted electronics amateurs and we got that idea into our
heads to build our own splitter box. I have a ISDN+ADSL connection at home.
Based on that connection we would like to separate the
a) DSL signal
b) ISDN signal
c) Analog telephone signal (POTS?)
with an appropriate self-implemented hardware setup.
Does someone have experience with this, which he / she would like to share
with me? Has somebody already implemented such a cicruit or could someone
explain to me how this is achieved best? A block diagram would be surely
helpful, because unfortunately we do not have much notion of the whole
telecom stuff.
Are there integrated solutions, i.e. special components, which one could
use? I would search for components myself but I don't have a clue under
which keyword those components are traded? It would also be helpful to know
something about the expected signal characteristics, e.g. voltage swing,
offset, frequency range, etc. I can remember something like voltage offset
of -60V at the POTS signal.... or something like that? What about the
ringing impulse with ISDN and POTS? It is definitely different with bioth, I
guess?!

Any kind of  answer and held is highly appreciated.

Best regards     Max
Don Bowey - 28 Apr 2006 15:49 GMT
On 4/28/06 5:12 AM, in article
445206a9$0$11073$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net, "M. Bayerer"
<diebombeausdemwesten@freenet.de> wrote:

> Hello newsgroup,
> we are three enthusiasted electronics amateurs and we got that idea into our
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Best regards     Max

There isn't enough useful info here to help you at all, except to suggest
you go to google and learn much more.

What are the bit rates of the "ISDN," and the "ADSL signals?"  Within a ISDN
structure it is unlikely you have an ADSL, but please explain how you figure
you have ISDN, ADSL, and DSL in a package?  Also, there is no way that a
ISDN facility can be shared as a POTS facility.  The POTS service would need
to be transported in one of the bearer channels of the ISDN, and NT2
hardware would be needed to provide conversion for the POTS phone (battery,
ringing, etc.).

Don
DecaturTxCowboy - 30 Apr 2006 08:04 GMT
> we are three enthusiasted electronics amateurs and we got that idea into our
> heads to build our own splitter box. I have a ISDN+ADSL connection at home.

Are you really really sure about that or just taking a casual guess?
ISDN and DSL are completely different technologies. No comparison, not
compatible.

> It would also be helpful to know
> something about the expected signal characteristics, e.g. voltage swing,
> offset, frequency range, etc. I can remember something like voltage offset
> of -60V at the POTS signal.... or something like that? What about the
> ringing impulse with ISDN and POTS?

POTS line: -48 Volt DC. Current modulated audio from the subscriber's
low impedance 10-100 Ohm variable carbon microphone (or electrical
equivalent) back to the Central office and voltage modulated audio from
the C.O. to the subscriber's high impedance 2K Ohm earpiece. 90 Volts 20
Hrz ringing voltage that trips on around 20 mA.

ISDN line: No battery voltage on the line. Just a data signal. Voice is
extracted from the data signal. Ringing voltage supplied locally by the
ISDN device. Its really incorrect to call it a ISDN modem as there is no
 modulation/demodulation of an audio signal as in a conventional POTS
modem.

DSL: High frequency audio signal that rides on top of the POTS line and
carries data. The data signal is a modulated audio signal.

Bottom line, no.

Best suggestion is to just buy the DSL modem from the phone company.
Sure, you can buy them elsewhere, but if you have connectivity or
configuration issues - you're on your own.
 
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