>I'm looking for a part which provides an output signal when a reflective
>surface is placed in front of it. I'm designing a circiut for my kids in
>which an LED should go on everytime their hamster makes one revolution in
>it's spinning wheel.
Hello Jen,
Here is one effective and interesting approach if you can get the
pieces to build it.
Someone in the group brought this to my attention a little while back,
I thought of mounting one on my backyard miniature 7' windmill.
http://www.freelights.co.uk/how.html
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Christopher
Temecula CA.USA
http://www.oldtemecula.com
Jen - 28 Apr 2006 15:17 GMT
Thanks!
That's a neat idea, if I can get it to work. It also would demonstrate to
the kids how mechanical energy can be turned into electrical energy.
-Jen
"Jen"
> Hi All,
> I'm looking for a part which provides an output signal when a reflective
> surface is placed in front of it. I'm designing a circiut for my kids in
> which an LED should go on everytime their hamster makes one revolution in
> it's spinning wheel.
** Try attaching a small magnet to the wheel and have it activate a reed
switch each revolution.
Then it's just battery, reed switch and LED - plus maybe a resistor.
Reed switch = tiny, glass encapsulated, magnetically *closed* switch used
in burglar alarms to detect open doors and windows.
....... Phil
Jen - 28 Apr 2006 15:37 GMT
Thanks for the idea! If the first solution posted here doesn't work, than I
have a backup.
-Jen
>Hi All,
>I'm looking for a part which provides an output signal when a reflective
>surface is placed in front of it. I'm designing a circiut for my kids in
>which an LED should go on everytime their hamster makes one revolution in
>it's spinning wheel.
I've been using Hanamatsu P5587 photoreflectors, which are designed
for exactly this purpose. They include LED and sensor in a single
5-pin package and have a schmidt-trigger and amp built in, so they
provide a clean 0-5V signal you can generally use without further
conditioning. They're popular with robotics enthusiasts for making
wheel encoders, which is what I use them for. I've found them to be
pretty sensitive to the distance between sensor and target though, and
need to be within a few mm with a fairly true wheel to work reliably.
That's using laser a laser printed patter with stripes 3-4mm wide
though, larger stripes and reflective material eases the positioning
requirements quite a bit. Even so, a hamster wheel may be a bit too
wobbly for them. If you want to try them, they're available in small
quantities from robotics enthusiast stores, www.acroname.com has them
for example. A search on the part name and 'robot' will find plenty of
examples and advice.
If you're not dead-set on an optical sensor, I think I prefer Phil
Allison's magnet and reed switch idea. Much less sensitive to
positioning and it won't stop working when the hamster flicks a bit of
sawdust on the sensor. Bicycle computers work this way, with a magnet
on the wheel and a reed switch on the frame.
Tim

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redbelly - 29 Apr 2006 00:57 GMT
> If you're not dead-set on an optical sensor, I think I prefer Phil
> Allison's magnet and reed switch idea. Much less sensitive to
> positioning and it won't stop working when the hamster flicks a bit of
> sawdust on the sensor. Bicycle computers work this way, with a magnet
> on the wheel and a reed switch on the frame.
One could probably just buy a bicycle speedometer and use it directly.
They should have calibration instructions, and you could probably
calibrate it so that 1 revolution gives a reading of 0.1 or 0.01 miles,
making it easy to figure the number of revs from the odometer reading.
Mark
Jasen Betts - 29 Apr 2006 07:23 GMT
>>Hi All,
>>I'm looking for a part which provides an output signal when a reflective
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> sawdust on the sensor. Bicycle computers work this way, with a magnet
> on the wheel and a reed switch on the frame.
a maget's going to unbalance the wheel (easily cured) but also cause a
non-uniform drag and a cogging action when it passes near the steel axle
supports, dunno if that'll trip the hamster up or not.
a piece of retro-reflective tape would probably work well if cleaned
regularly.
Bye.
Jasen