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toyo22r - 29 Dec 2005 16:47 GMT
I have a question about low pass filters.  I am designing a 2nd order lo
pass LC filter.  What determines the response type? (ie. butterworth
bessel, etc.)

Many thanks,
Paul
Pooh Bear - 30 Dec 2005 06:11 GMT
> I have a question about low pass filters.  I am designing a 2nd order low
> pass LC filter.  What determines the response type? (ie. butterworth,
> bessel, etc.)

Active or passive ?

Graham
James Douglas - 30 Dec 2005 12:38 GMT
Search google for filter software, there is a ton of it which may help
with your design stuff. Some of it if very good and best most that I
recall was F R E E!

> I have a question about low pass filters.  I am designing a 2nd order low
> pass LC filter.  What determines the response type? (ie. butterworth,
> bessel, etc.)
>
> Many thanks,
> Paul
BobG - 30 Dec 2005 13:36 GMT
toyo22r:
What determines the response type? (ie. butterworth,
bessel, etc.)
====================
Response has to do with damping... this is controlled by Q of the coil
Q=omegaL/R,
f=1/(2*pi*R*C)
Pooh Bear - 30 Dec 2005 13:46 GMT
> toyo22r:
> What determines the response type? (ie. butterworth,
> bessel, etc.)
> ====================
> Response has to do with damping... this is controlled by Q of the coil
> Q=omegaL/R,

Not alone. The load on the filter affects the damping too. ( in the case
of an active filter the gain ).

Graham
BobG - 30 Dec 2005 13:37 GMT
Sorry. Too early. that f was for an RC filter. For the LC filter
f=1/(2*pi*sqrt(LC))
john jardine - 30 Dec 2005 18:08 GMT
> I have a question about low pass filters.  I am designing a 2nd order low
> pass LC filter.  What determines the response type? (ie. butterworth,
> bessel, etc.)
>
> Many thanks,
> Paul

The various response types emphasise certain filter features, such that one
chosen style may offer a little extra benefit in a particular filtering job.
(You) make the choice based on knowing what flavours are available (there's
about half a dozen kicking about) and the particular properties that they
each advertise.
Feature wise, there's not a great deal to mug up on but I can't offhand
suggest a [useful] filter website as I've not seen one and most filter
textbooks lose the plot after about page 1.
At the end of the day, a LP filter is a LP filter and a design that gives
components calculated for a Butterworth style response (feature: flat
response upto it's cutoff) can be OK for maybe 90% of all day to day
filtering needs.
All the rest is just niceties :)
regards
john
Bob Monsen - 31 Dec 2005 02:15 GMT
> I have a question about low pass filters.  I am designing a 2nd order low
>
> pass LC filter.  What determines the response type? (ie. butterworth,
>
> bessel, etc.)

Look here:

http://www.dspguide.com/pdfbook.htm

Chapter 3 has a nice explanation of antialias filters, and gives a good
description of the different types of filters.

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