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z - 20 Aug 2008 22:28 GMT
oh yeah!
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html
Tom Biasi - 20 Aug 2008 22:33 GMT
> oh yeah!
> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html

I got a laugh out of that.
Thanks.

Tom
Terry Given - 20 Aug 2008 23:55 GMT
>>oh yeah!
>>http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Tom

Im sitting here with a group of guys (and one in CA, and one in england
thanks skype) working on an LED video screen. we got a laugh out of it
too :)

Cheers
Terry
Joerg - 24 Aug 2008 17:21 GMT
>>> oh yeah!
>>> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> thanks skype) working on an LED video screen. we got a laugh out of it
> too :)

How's Skype for you in that respect? Can you share drawings and docs?
How about eaves-drop safety?

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Frank Buss - 24 Aug 2008 17:34 GMT
> How's Skype for you in that respect? Can you share drawings and docs?
> How about eaves-drop safety?

Eavesdrop is easy in Skype. The company sells the backdoor:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Spekulationen-um-Backdoor-in-Skype--/meldung/113281

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Joerg - 24 Aug 2008 21:39 GMT
>> How's Skype for you in that respect? Can you share drawings and docs?
>> How about eaves-drop safety?
>
> Eavesdrop is easy in Skype. The company sells the backdoor:
>
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Spekulationen-um-Backdoor-in-Skype--/meldung/113281

Ok, I wouldn't worry too much about law enforcement dropping in since I
don't do any illegal stuff. But the rumors about selling are concerning.
Might be just rumors though. I am more concerned about schematics and
stuff that get shared during discussions. Not sure whether and how that
works though because there is only scant information on the Skype site,
and it only lists webcam style video.

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Rich Grise - 26 Aug 2008 01:13 GMT
>>> How's Skype for you in that respect? Can you share drawings and docs?
>>> How about eaves-drop safety?
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> works though because there is only scant information on the Skype site,
> and it only lists webcam style video.

Not that I really have anybody I need to call, but this Skype looks pretty
interesting. So I went to their site, and they don't have a Slackware
package and I didn't see any links to source where I can compile it here.

Anybody heard of either of those anywhere?

Thanks,
Rich
Joerg - 26 Aug 2008 02:14 GMT
>>>> How's Skype for you in that respect? Can you share drawings and docs?
>>>> How about eaves-drop safety?
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Anybody heard of either of those anywhere?

What's slackware? Some kind of trousers?

<duck and run ...>

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Rich Grise - 26 Aug 2008 23:38 GMT
>> Anybody heard of either of those anywhere?
>
> What's slackware? Some kind of trousers?
>
> <duck and run ...>

Actually, I had first heard of Linux in the 1995 era, so I decided to try
it. I was wondering which distro to d/l, and there were so many options,
with attributes and stuff that I had no clue about, so I picked Slackware
because I liked the name. Linux for slackers - what a perfect fit! ;-P

Mind you, it's not Aunt Tillie-Friendly at all - it's more of a techie's
Linux. :-)
http://www.slackware.com/

Cheers!
Rich
Joerg - 27 Aug 2008 23:27 GMT
>>> Anybody heard of either of those anywhere?
>> What's slackware? Some kind of trousers?
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> Mind you, it's not Aunt Tillie-Friendly at all - it's more of a techie's
> Linux. :-)

That's one reason I can't use Linux. No time to become an OS expert. If
I'd fiddle with all them distros and settings and gizmos it would be
like Barney Fife and his gun.

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Don Bruder - 28 Aug 2008 01:32 GMT
> >>> Anybody heard of either of those anywhere?
> >> What's slackware? Some kind of trousers?
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> I'd fiddle with all them distros and settings and gizmos it would be
> like Barney Fife and his gun.

Put your bullet back in your pocket, Barney... :)

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JeffM - 27 Aug 2008 19:48 GMT
>>[...]Skype looks pretty interesting
>>[...]they don't have a Slackware package
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>What's slackware? Some kind of trousers?
><duck and run ...>

Actually, it's the oldest extant distro.
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:t01sMEAV2jYJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparis
on_of_Linux_distributions+1993-08+1994-*-*+1993-07+text+text+1995.*.*+without.co
st+text+First.Public.Release+text+Debian.Project+SuSE.Linux+Slackware+text+text+
Red.Hat.Linux


I've wondered what the world would be like
if a big rock had fallen out of the sky and
impacted the Redmond campus during business hours ~April 1, 1995
(before W95 and just before Red Hat's release).
Joel Koltner - 27 Aug 2008 20:02 GMT
> I've wondered what the world would be like
> if a big rock had fallen out of the sky and
> impacted the Redmond campus during business hours ~April 1, 1995
> (before W95 and just before Red Hat's release).

If that had happened, I suspect that Macs and Amigas would have been seen as
much more viable contenders than Slackware. :-)  (Well, maybe not Amigas...
Commodore declared bankruptcy in 1994... :-( )
Joerg - 27 Aug 2008 23:26 GMT
>>> [...]Skype looks pretty interesting
>>> [...]they don't have a Slackware package
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> impacted the Redmond campus during business hours ~April 1, 1995
> (before W95 and just before Red Hat's release).

Probably IBM would then still be in that biz because there wouldn't have
been Senor Gates eating their lunch.

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Phil Hobbs - 28 Aug 2008 04:01 GMT
>>>> [...]Skype looks pretty interesting
>>>> [...]they don't have a Slackware package
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> Probably IBM would then still be in that biz because there wouldn't have
> been Senor Gates eating their lunch.

OS/2 2.0 came out in April, 1992.  A spectacular technical
success--multithreaded 32-bit OS, fully object-oriented GUI, a beautiful
object model (SOM)...I could go on...but a stupid marketing failure.  I
still use OS/2 at least a few times a week, and I still love it.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs
Joerg - 28 Aug 2008 15:52 GMT
>>>>> [...]Skype looks pretty interesting
>>>>> [...]they don't have a Slackware package
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> object model (SOM)...I could go on...but a stupid marketing failure.  I
> still use OS/2 at least a few times a week, and I still love it.

Well, absolutely. I was sure hoping OS/2 would make it but they
blundered so badly in the marketing area that it's hard to believe.
Essentially they could have eaten Microsoft's lunch but instead simply
walked away from the table.

<still shaking head>

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krw - 29 Aug 2008 01:04 GMT
> >>>>> [...]Skype looks pretty interesting
> >>>>> [...]they don't have a Slackware package
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> Essentially they could have eaten Microsoft's lunch but instead simply
> walked away from the table.

They simply didn't have the money.

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JosephKK - 29 Aug 2008 14:39 GMT
>> >>>>> [...]Skype looks pretty interesting
>> >>>>> [...]they don't have a Slackware package
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>>
>They simply didn't have the money.

Back then the money ratio was still in IBM's favor.  IBM turned away
because it would have eaten into their Power architecture 'nix
workstation line.  One more instance of killing the golden egg laying
goose to save the lame duck product.
krw - 30 Aug 2008 00:31 GMT
> >> >>>>> [...]Skype looks pretty interesting
> >> >>>>> [...]they don't have a Slackware package
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> workstation line.  One more instance of killing the golden egg laying
> goose to save the lame duck product.

No, it wasn't.  IBM was bust, by some *very* knowledgeable people,
withing two or three weeks of missing payroll.  There simply were
more important places to put a few hundred million$.

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David L. Jones - 25 Aug 2008 07:49 GMT
> oh yeah!http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html

Brilliant!

Cue the Phil Allison jokes... :->

Dave.
Michael A. Terrell - 25 Aug 2008 08:55 GMT
> > oh yeah!http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Dave.

  "Phil Allison jokes"?  Isn't that an oxymoron?

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bassett - 25 Aug 2008 09:45 GMT
>> > oh
>> > yeah!http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html
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>
>   "Phil Allison jokes"?  Isn't that an oxymoron?

No petal,  your the cross posting  Oxymoran,  Still I expect Phil, will get
to you in his own time.

So how did the new job  go, as a traffic cone, it's a significant  upgrade
from a speed hump.

 WAFW
bassett
Michael A. Terrell - 25 Aug 2008 10:00 GMT
> >> > oh
> >> > yeah!http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> No petal,  your the cross posting  Oxymoran,  Still I expect Phil, will get
> to you in his own time.

  Phil?  He tried that years ago, and got as good as he gave.

> from a speed hump.

  Speed hump?  What kind of drugs are you on, or are you talking about
your production line hooker?

  Blather all you want, then let me know when NASA puts your
electronics on the ISS.

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bassett - 25 Aug 2008 12:34 GMT
>> >> > oh
>> >> > yeah!http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html
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>   Blather all you want, then let me know when NASA puts your
> electronics on the ISS.

so you are a cock sucking septic tank, explains everything

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MoiInAust - 25 Aug 2008 21:49 GMT
>> oh yeah!

http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html

> Brilliant!
>
> Cue the Phil Allison jokes... :->
>
> Dave.
Frank Buss - 25 Aug 2008 10:13 GMT
> oh yeah!
> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html

How did they made the wires and connection points for the parts? Looks like
toasted bread.

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donald - 25 Aug 2008 13:47 GMT
>> oh yeah!
>> http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2008/08/bread_circuit_board_blink.html
>
> How did they made the wires and connection points for the parts? Looks like
> toasted bread.

Did you they did not show the LED wiring.

Did you notice that the 24 pin connector connects fro the bottom, but we
do not get to see the where it comes from.

Old magicians trick, lets you see just enough but not too much.

donald
 
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