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Electronics Forum / Basics / January 2008effect of xray on fpga electronic circuits
Dear All, As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital Camera. However, the Camera will be exposed to XRAY (It will be placed behind an Imaging Intensifier). Does anybody know how XRAY affects the electronic circuits (The CCD Sensor and the FPGA ). What type of noise should I expect and what should I do to prevent it. Thanks in advance > Dear All, > As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > should I expect and what should I do to prevent it. > Thanks in advance Can bits be flipped? Do you need a RadHard FPGA? Cheers, Jon > > Dear All, > > As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Cheers, > Jon To all it matters to what level of radiation from your source gets to your CCD camera. As a X Product Manager for a X-ray imaging company if we placed the CCD camera behind a intensifier tube -- lots of material between it and the camera a few lens -- we had little problem with noise from the x-ray beam we we producing. We could still detect some x-rays at this point but they were real weak. Now when we put the CCD (Sony) B/W camera in the direct beam path we had issues of noise in the CCD detector. We landed up placing the camera off axis. When we went to a special CCD camera behind a screen and a little glass it was not a bad but could still be seen and needed averaging to get rid of the problems we could see. Hope this helps-- Place the camera off axis if at all possible remember a lot of thing are transperant to x- ray but will reflect light. Regards Cliff > Dear All, > As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > should I expect and what should I do to prevent it. > Thanks in advance A little bit of lead foil goes a long way. Depends on how much XRAY I imagine. Be careful. > Dear All, > As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > should I expect and what should I do to prevent it. > Thanks in advance Ever consider using a phosphor plate to turn the x-rays into visible light first? > Dear All, > As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > should I expect and what should I do to prevent it. > Thanks in advance Is it internal flash or external flash? If anything, flash would be the weakest link. >> Dear All, >> As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Is it internal flash or external flash? If anything, flash would be > the weakest link. I would think an old fashioned tube camera with tube amplifiers would be the most radiation resistant. > >> Dear All, > >> As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I would think an old fashioned tube camera with tube amplifiers > would be the most radiation resistant. Vidicon tubes! I haven't seen one of those in a whole lot of years but I'm so happy everythign is CCD now. > Dear All, > As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital > Camera. However, the Camera will be exposed to XRAY (It will be placed > behind an Imaging Intensifier). Does anybody know how XRAY affects the > electronic circuits (The CCD Sensor and the FPGA ). What type of noise > should I expect and what should I do to prevent it. As you did not mention it, perhaps it is yet unknown: The 'NASA office of Logic Design' did quite some studies about the influence of differend kinds of radiation on both off-the-shelf and 'rad hard' types of electronics. Did not see anything on CCDs, but FPGAs seem to be definitely in scope there. There's loads of information about their results and learned lessons on http://klabs.org/ , which is their web site. Hope this helps, Thiemo  SignatureQuery a PGP key server (e.g. http://www.pgp.net/) for my public key 41068629. Strange sender address? Please see http://www.thiemo.net/misc/list-mail.shtml In article <209b3e90-d60e-42b5-84fa- 9e2ce075c10e@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, sci.electronics.design, kurtulmehtap@gmail.com says... > Dear All, > As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > should I expect and what should I do to prevent it. > Thanks in advance CMOS doesn't like X-Rays much. There is a failure mechanism that tends to harden CMOS SRAM bits in one direction. I'm not sure how bad it gets though. SignatureKeith >In article <209b3e90-d60e-42b5-84fa- >9e2ce075c10e@s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, sci.electronics.design, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >tends to harden CMOS SRAM bits in one direction. I'm not sure how >bad it gets though. THE HORRORS! Someone need to tell Agilent & Teradyne ASAP. Millions of boards a year are run through their x-ray fault detection systems. Digital boards quite often with memory. >>CMOS doesn't like X-Rays much. There is a failure mechanism that >>tends to harden CMOS SRAM bits in one direction. I'm not sure how [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >year are run through their x-ray fault detection systems. >Digital boards quite often with memory. There's a heck of a big difference between running a board through an xray machine a few times, and having that board run for a long time being exposed to xrays of uncertain energy while it's operating. SignatureWim Lewis <wiml@hhhh.org>, Seattle, WA, USA. PGP keyID 27F772C1 >>>CMOS doesn't like X-Rays much. There is a failure mechanism that >>>tends to harden CMOS SRAM bits in one direction. I'm not sure how [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >an xray machine a few times, and having that board run for a long >time being exposed to xrays of uncertain energy while it's operating. And just what are those parameters? What level is safe? What level is damaging? Length of time with respect to *energy* level? Frequency domain? Studies to support that data? Don't leave everyone hanging: >>There's a heck of a big difference between running a board through >>an xray machine a few times, and having that board run for a long [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Don't leave everyone hanging: It's OK to leave me hanging. Like most people, I don't care much about the effects of X-rays. My equipment isn't subjected to any significant intensity, because it's not X-rayed while in use, nor is it likely to go into space. If you're so interested, why not research it yourself? >>>There's a heck of a big difference between running a board through >>>an xray machine a few times, and having that board run for a long [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >If you're so interested, why not research it yourself? Ah, so you didn't quite catch the quite obvious drift of the questions. Here is a little research for you, look up the term FUD. Follow that with "saccharine in rodents". >>>>There's a heck of a big difference between running a board through >>>>an xray machine a few times, and having that board run for a long [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Follow that with "saccharine in rodents". better yet, look up "fundamentals of nuclear hardening of electronic equipment", L. W. Ricketts, Krieger pub. Cheers Terry > Dear All, > As an assignment I have to design a CCD Sensor based FPGA digital [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > should I expect and what should I do to prevent it. > Thanks in advance Hi, There are rad-hard CCDs available. There are also rad-hard FPGA's available. Actel uses anti-fuse technology, which is inherently rad- hard. We (fellow engineers and I at my aerospace company) use Actel and Quicklogic FPGAs for space-based applications. Tom P. . |
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