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Electronics Forum / Electronics / December 2008Electronic Rust Protection Device
Dealers Required RUST STOP Device. Dear Sir, The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are taken, leaving the steel intact. No Extra Pads. No Extra Wiring. With digital Display for Showing the Battery Voltages. Bottom Side of the Device is working itself as a strong Anodic Pad. Installation very easy just Connect the battery terminals and fix the ECC device at suitable place. Mr. Jamil Ahmed. Export Manager Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44 fuelex@live.com > Dealers Required RUST STOP Device. > Dear Sir, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44 > fuelex@live.com I have got a chook and a rabbit ! >> Dealers Required RUST STOP Device. >> Dear Sir, >> Mr. Jamil Ahmed. >> Export Manager >> Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44 >> fuelex@live.com > > I have got a chook and a rabbit ! I strongly suspect Mr Ahmed may have already have a camel. > Dealers Required RUST STOP Device. > Dear Sir, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44 > fuelex@live.com Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial electrode. >> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in >> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a >> protective electron field within the metal fabric of the vehicle. This >> protective field disrupts the normal rusting process by generating >> readily available free electrons, which in the rusting process are >> taken, leaving the steel intact. >Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial >electrode. Has anyone ever seen any rust prevention device in a domestic hot water system other than a magnesium anode? - Franc Zabkar  SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. >>> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in >>> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Franc Zabkar Sort of OT, AFAIK outboard motors use a zinc anode. How pue is the HWS magnesium anode? >>>> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in >>>> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > How pue is the HWS magnesium anode? In both the water heater and the outboard case the cathodic protection has a circuit return through the water. This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich quick" masturbation exercise. The OP might scam some idjits at eBay like his mates do with '12 Volt electric superchargers', and 'combustion-ehnancing swirl plates' which claim a 30% decrease in fuel consumption...the sellers only need a few fools a day to survive quite nicely. "Sophisticated electronics" includes some coloured wire and a mounting screw. I have a bridge for sale ! >>>>> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in >>>>> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich >quick" masturbation exercise. If there's no return path, ie no water, then the car won't rust. ;-) - Franc Zabkar SignaturePlease remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. >>>>>> The ECC electronic rust protection system is designed to operate in >>>>>> the automotive environment. Its sophisticated electronics generate a [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >- Franc Zabkar Unless the water molecule is on the grain boundaries of the metal. >>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:13:36 -0000, "ian field" - snip - > This car 'electronic juju' has no return path - except via the giga-ohms > air leakage path...so of course it's bullshit, and another 'get rich [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I have a bridge for sale ! Do you have those 'water conditioners' in your neck of the woods that are claimed to work 'by altering the crystallisation behaviour of Calcium and Magnesium ions' that would otherwise scale-up your pipes and boiler? Things like http://www.freescale.co.uk/ and http://www.littleplumber.com/. Some of them have a pair of open-ended wires emanating from a box of 'electronics' that are meant to be wrapped around a water pipe - even a copper one. A 'consumers' guide' to these things (http://www.britishwater.co.uk/Document/Download.aspx?uid=ee36c54e-925e-4b64-b732 -b7b13aa6a638) says: 'It is acknowledged that in some circumstances conditioners do not work or are not as effective as expected. It is therefore important that, as with all domestic products, the type of conditioner that is purchased comes with a manufacturer's performance-linked money-back guarantee' ... but, of course, they don't and the documentation that comes with these things doesn't actually say anything that can be tested. Where I used to work, we acquired a wall-mounted water boiler for making cups of tea (!) which used to scale up badly so one of these things was fitted by the local 'handymen'. The boiler scaled up just as badly. Later we went back to using a kettle (!!) and opened up the case of the 'water conditioner' to find little more than a couple of 555s. Chris . . . >Do you have those 'water conditioners' in your neck of the woods that are >claimed to work 'by altering the crystallisation behaviour of Calcium and [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Chris I have never seen one of those here, but I am certainly aware of their popularity in the UK. For years I have seen Magenta Electronics advertising a kit for one. This is not your garden variety 555 one either, no sir, this is a high power microcontroller-based one. Like you say, they are careful not to make great claims about it, only that it *may* help reduce scale formation. http://tinyurl.com/5gg5lw I would not be surprised if that kit is based on a project published in Everyday Practical Electronics - that magazine occasionally publishes projects that may, let us say, be based on less-than-mainstream science. Andy Wood woodag@trap.ozemail.com.au > . . . >> [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > publishes projects that may, let us say, be based on > less-than-mainstream science. At a time I was working on a building site they were routinely installing "calcium modifiers" to every new apartment. These were brazed copper capsules with an integral copper pipe through the middle. The capsule contained a stack of ferrite ring magnets, not unlike the one's used in oven magnetrons. :>>> On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 16:13:36 -0000, "ian field" : [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] : :Chris Hydrosmart is one such device claimed to remove scale etc as water flows through the pipes - even at high flow rates. http://www.hydrosmart.com.au/ Here is a good reference site for water treatment scams and pseudo science/quackery http://www.chem1.com/CQ/magscams.html >Snake oil! - just rivet a strip of zinc on somewhere to act as a sacrificial >electrode. I can't speak for the OP's devices but that sort of technology does work, they're used successfully on quite a lot of buildings put up in the last 10-15 years. I interviewed (and got the job but turned it down later) for a company that built them based around PSoC chips. Quite clever devices, they had a way of measuring and calculating the current needed to keep the steelwork safe so it could adjust automatically, logging the changes in EEPROM that could be downloaded via a serial link. SignatureClint Sharp ... > Mr. Jamil Ahmed. > Export Manager > Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44 > fuelex@live.com Isn't it funny to shorten "mobile" to "mobil.", same number of characters. > ... > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Isn't it funny to shorten "mobile" to "mobil.", same number of characters. Well, the single dot is a Morse Code 'e' ! > Dealers Required RUST STOP Device. > Dear Sir, [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Mobil. 00 92 33 33 27 38 44 > fuelex@live.com Sounds like a fancy description of a battery. |
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