>>>Service manual for Blaupunkt TV chassis FM550.20, or circuits for the
>>>audio section (IF and output)?
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>Regards,
>H.
Thanks. However, as the TV is a 12 year-old 68cm set, and the suspect
IC looks like costing AU$50 delivered, I think the customer probably
won't go ahead with the repair if I have to add the cost of a manual.
BTW, Grundig Australia's service rep (United Electrical Engineering
Pty Ltd) didn't want to know me. I was told that they didn't support
old CRT sets. Instead I was advised to contact Grundig directly.
BTW, I have no idea who is the service agent for Blaupunkt TVs in
Australia. I have basically given up looking for them.
Moral of the story: Don't expect any support for a German TV in
Australia, at least not outside of the warranty period.
To assist others in cross-referencing Grundig chassis with Blaupunkt
and other brands, here are two URLs I found useful:
TVT Forum | Gesucht und Gefunden | Grundig Vergleichsliste:
http://www.tvtechniker.de/forum/thread.php?postid=10241
Baugleiche Grundig TV's:
http://www.museumsorganisation.de/Baugleiche/TV/grundig.htm
Here is an alternative link to Grundig manuals including the CUC6330:
http://www.electronica-pt.com/index.php/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,3
4/func,startdown/id,2150/
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Heinz Schmitz - 09 Jul 2008 12:07 GMT
>Thanks. However, as the TV is a 12 year-old 68cm set, and the suspect
>IC looks like costing AU$50 delivered, I think the customer probably
>won't go ahead with the repair if I have to add the cost of a manual.
I was afraid to read that :-). Probably I would be able to fill earths
biggest hole for free with CRT-devices, would I only come by to
take them.
>BTW, I have no idea who is the service agent for Blaupunkt TVs in
>Australia. I have basically given up looking for them.
Did you play a bit with their site?
http://www.blaupunkt.com/html/index.htm
>Moral of the story: Don't expect any support for a German TV in
>Australia, at least not outside of the warranty period.
This is a global phenomenon. The gadgets are baked, packed
and said good-bye to. Customers? Drop dead after having paid.
Anyhow, good luck and
regards,
H.
Franc Zabkar - 09 Jul 2008 21:49 GMT
>>BTW, I have no idea who is the service agent for Blaupunkt TVs in
>>Australia. I have basically given up looking for them.
>
>Did you play a bit with their site?
>http://www.blaupunkt.com/html/index.htm
Yes, but the flash rubbish that is typical of Chinese sites drove me
mad. :-)
Here are the "Australian" service centres:
http://www.blaupunkt.com/au/infoservices_5.asp
I'm given the choice of Robert Bosch Singapore or Robert Bosch
Malaysia.
There is also an Australian email address and 1300 telephone number.
So far I haven't received a response to my email request.
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Robert Petras - 09 Jul 2008 18:41 GMT
> BTW, Grundig Australia's service rep (United Electrical Engineering
> Pty Ltd) didn't want to know me. I was told that they didn't support
> old CRT sets. Instead I was advised to contact Grundig directly.
>
> BTW, I have no idea who is the service agent for Blaupunkt TVs in
> Australia. I have basically given up looking for them.
You won't get lucky trying to get technical assistance from Grundig on
sets that old. The former Grundig company of Fuerth, Germany has been
bankrupt and the name - not the knowledge and quality of service/
design - sold some years ago. What nowadays goes by the name "Grundig"
is not worth the bandwith wasted writing about it. And Blaupunkt
dropped out of the TV segment almost decades ago, after all they
mostly rebadged Grundig Chassis. So there is no use trying to get any
info from either of them.
What you have there is some fine machine from the good old days, and I
am really sorry I have no info on that particular IF module, since
I've never seen AUS sets. The 29504-102 PAL BG IF Module with german
type 5.5/5.74MHz Subcarrier (Not NICAM) Stereo decoding based on
TDA6611-2 is depicted in the CUC5510/11 schematic (DL-able on
eserviceinfo). Maybe this will help some.
Unfortunately this set does not have the well known washer contact at
the mains switch that regularly caused audio mute problems in earlier
Grundig models. So it's other problems you will have to look into.
With CUC6330 you may try this:
Since the IF Module is not the same as in the German models I know,
get the Datasheet for TDA6612-5 from alldatasheet.com and see if you
can scope something on the input of this IC the way it is coming from
the U2840 - so you rule out the U2840.
Try Scart AV.
Generally with any of these sets scope the I2C at the TDA6612 to see
if a level of 5V is reached when the SDA SCL line is being released,
and the edges on the Hi-Lo Lo-Hi transitions are not too sloped.
The test I used for IC like TDA66xx/6200/TY45018 etc used in Grundigs
and similar sets whenever swaping the module was not an option, is to
take the chip off the bus and attach a I2C monitoring/control software
like IICUNI.EXE with its simple hardware interface to the chip and see
if the chip does respond to the address probe command of the software.
I found most of the time one of these chips are gone (mostly due to
arcover from tripler/DST), they are gone for good and won't even
respond to their address being called.
BTW Since TDA6612 controls the volume and source selection like
TDA6611, I suspect it to mute the sound unless it is initialized via
I2C,- just like the TDA6611 and TY45018 etc generally do. So I
wouldn't expect taking the TDA6612 off the BUS would do any good
unless you init it manually via some dongle/software using the
commands from the datasheet.
Sadly as with most of these models the spare part plus labor is mostly
beyond the limit of most customers.
-regards, Robert
Franc Zabkar - 09 Jul 2008 21:49 GMT
>> BTW, Grundig Australia's service rep (United Electrical Engineering
>> Pty Ltd) didn't want to know me. I was told that they didn't support
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>TDA6611-2 is depicted in the CUC5510/11 schematic (DL-able on
>eserviceinfo). Maybe this will help some.
Thanks. I had already downloaded the datasheet for the TDA6612-5 and
managed to work out the general function.
>Unfortunately this set does not have the well known washer contact at
>the mains switch that regularly caused audio mute problems in earlier
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>take the chip off the bus and attach a I2C monitoring/control software
>like IICUNI.EXE ...
Thanks, that's brilliant stuff. I was thinking about hooking up my
module to my PC's SMBus and using one of my hardware monitoring
utilities to scan for it, but this is so much better.
BTW, I managed to find IICUNI here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20060511013214/sterr.narod.ru/progs/iicuni.rar
>... with its simple hardware interface to the chip and see
>if the chip does respond to the address probe command of the software.
>I found most of the time one of these chips are gone (mostly due to
>arcover from tripler/DST), they are gone for good and won't even
>respond to their address being called.
>BTW Since TDA6612 controls the volume and source selection like
>TDA6611, I suspect it to mute the sound unless it is initialized via
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>
>-regards, Robert
I'll probably continue working on it as an intellectual exercise.
IICUNI has sparked my interest. In the meantime Bush Australia are
chasing the part for me. However they want a Grundig *model* number -
apparently the Grundig *chassis* number was not sufficient. <shrug>
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Franc Zabkar - 10 Jul 2008 07:00 GMT
>BTW, I have no idea who is the service agent for Blaupunkt TVs in
>Australia.
It's SAL Electronics:
http://www.salelectronics.com.au/service.html
BTW, the TFK IC was a U2860B, not a U2840B. Sorry.
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