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Electronics Forum / Electronics / July 2008Intel rejects Vista, will stay with XP and wait for windows7
Just picked up on this very interesting message/thread from: sci.electronics.design Cheers Don... ====================================================== Intel rejects Vista, will stay with XP and wait for windows7 The source? http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/06/23/intel-dumps-vista The nytimes: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/et-tu-intel/index.html?partner=rssnyt&e mc=rss&scp=1-b&sq=intel&st=nyt In German heise: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Intel-ruestet-nicht-auf-Windows-Vista-um--/meldun g/110022 Hey, The Inquirer mentioned Linux!  SignatureDon McKenzie Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email Xbee Wireless Modules, and low cost Interface Boards. http://www.dontronics-shop.com/xbee-boards.html > Just picked up on this very interesting message/thread from: > sci.electronics.design [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Hey, The Inquirer mentioned Linux! If your a Corp with 80,000 puters, Installing Linux would be about as easy as Installing Vista. You will have the same basic problems. Compatibility with existing hardware Re-Training existing Users Unless you are prepared to replace every piece of Electronic gizmo's and gadgets, Software that connects to the PC, it would be pretty pointless. I won't be holding my breath for Win7 either as being the saviour. Unless Intel develop Quantum Computers, I think it will be slower than Vista but it should be more compatible. >> Just picked up on this very interesting message/thread from: >> sci.electronics.design [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > If your a Corp with 80,000 puters, Installing Linux would be about as > easy as Installing Vista. You will have the same basic problems. LInux generally is miles easier to swap into , unless the hardware like printers is very odd it just works > Compatibility with existing hardware > Re-Training existing Users bugga all time at all involved as most of the commercial packages are available for several platforms > Unless you are prepared to replace every piece of Electronic gizmo's > and gadgets, Software that connects to the PC, it would be pretty > pointless. wrong , well configured nix without all the chat stuff and locked down to stop time wasting produces more work... fact > I won't be holding my breath for Win7 either as being the saviour. > Unless Intel develop Quantum Computers, I think it will be slower > than Vista but it should be more compatible. time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming much looser > time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming > much looser Pity there is still FAR more software applications available for Windows, than for Unix though. Of course if you just want email and office apps, or are prepared to write your own programs, then using WinBlows is a waste of money. MrT. >> time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming >> much looser > > Pity there is still FAR more software applications available for Windows, > than for Unix though. Lol, you really should start looking around. *nix far outnumber MS offerings these days. > Of course if you just want email and office apps, or are prepared to write > your own programs, then using WinBlows is a waste of money. Exactly and that describes most office PCs; mail, and word processing. >>> time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming >>> much looser [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Exactly and that describes most office PCs; mail, and word processing. I would like you to try and convince any Large Corp, they should abandon M$ Office and use either Star/Open Office. Even though it's 1/4 the cost of M$'s, I reckon you've got buckleys. And again, nobody wants to start retraining staff, or finding staff with Star Office skills already. >>>> time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming >>>> much looser [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > And again, nobody wants to start retraining staff, or finding staff > with Star Office skills already. You have little real world corp experience it seems >>>>> time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming >>>>> much looser [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >You have little real world corp experience it seems I do and he is spot on. >>>>>> time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming >>>>>> much looser [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > I do and he is spot on. I doubt that very much , if you take the care to google many companies overseas and here are dropping the billware and installing dedicated workstation software which heavily reduces time wasting >>>>> time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming >>>>> much looser [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> > You have little real world corp experience it seems Wrong. I've worked for Banks, Telstra and Government that should qualify. But back in the old days.... Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 It's wasn't until the "Under New Management" was hanging on those companies before they even thought about changing. The Larger the company, the more heads are involved and change is very difficult. >>>>>> time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming >>>>>> much looser [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > I've worked for Banks, Telstra and Government that should qualify. many of the decisions in those campanies is clueless .. wont bore with how I know but ti]s all to common > But back in the old days.... Ah when I was at the coal face > Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 > It's wasn't until the "Under New Management" was hanging on those > companies before they even thought about changing. and the chose a pup > The Larger the company, the more heads are involved and change > is very difficult. depends if public or private > But back in the old days.... > Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 Why is the blue blazes would any sane company have moved from WP or Os/2? Both were exceedingly good, solid products. > son of a bitch wrote >> But back in the old days.... >> Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 > Why is the blue blazes would any sane company have moved from WP or Os/2? Because the world moved on. > Both were exceedingly good, solid products. But both had passed their useby date. > But both had passed their useby date. applicable to you in the extreme woddles eh wot ? >> But back in the old days.... >> Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 > > Why is the blue blazes would any sane company have moved from WP or Os/2? > > Both were exceedingly good, solid products. OS/2 made by IBM, IBM is hopeless at writing code Biggest downfall, again software support for Devices. WP, what else can you say. The world moved onto GUI's and WP was still in DOS Mode, their Windows incantation was a complete flop. It was sold more times than used car. >>> But back in the old days.... >>> Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > OS/2 made by IBM, IBM is hopeless at writing code Oh Dear > Biggest downfall, again software support for Devices. oops > WP, what else can you say. The world moved onto GUI's and > WP was still in DOS Mode, their Windows incantation was a > complete flop. It was sold more times than used car. you certainly have a short memory , although maybe you were not in the industry many years ago as some of were... >>>> But back in the old days.... >>>> Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > you certainly have a short memory , although maybe you were not in the > industry many years ago as some of were... The DOS version of Version WP was probably the best thing at that time. By the time they delivered the Windows Version the world had moved toward M$-Word. It was good but it crashed an awful lot. By the time they fixed all the bugs, they really did miss the boat. It did not win the race for the Desktop. So now, M$ has an enormous percentage in the Office tools market. How many desktops do you see running Smart Suite or Word Perfect Office? >>>>> But back in the old days.... >>>>> Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > How many desktops do you see running Smart Suite or Word Perfect Office? We have a majority not running m/s office , most use a simple word processor and the tasks the machine is intended for There is a growing trend to dump m/s and install other o/s in the fields we service ... you should google m/s extortion on licensing fees.. >>> But back in the old days.... >>> Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > OS/2 made by IBM, IBM is hopeless at writing code Really? you do know who wrote all the initial MS offerings(after MSDos)? Good enough for MS for quite a few years. > Biggest downfall, again software support for Devices. No, its biggest downfall was that every driver had to be loaded in exactly the correct way and order, otherwise it didn't work and other things broke. Once someone worked it out and shared it, you were sweet. It was rock solid then. As to networking, it did everything (ipx,tcpip,netbeu/netbios) at the same time when MSWin could manage one or two protocols at best. IMO, the other problem was that they didn't support home users, so it didn't have the unpaid salesforce promoting it. > WP, what else can you say. The world moved onto GUI's and WP was still > in DOS Mode, their Windows incantation was a complete flop. It was sold > more times than used car. Err, what was a flop? WP productivity still outperforms MSWord > son of a bitch wrote >>> son of a bitch wrote >>>> But back in the old days.... >>>> Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 >>> Why is the blue blazes would any sane company have moved from WP or Os/2? >>> Both were exceedingly good, solid products. >> OS/2 made by IBM, IBM is hopeless at writing code > Really? you do know who wrote all the initial MS offerings(after MSDos)? Wasnt IBM. > Good enough for MS for quite a few years. They did in fact produce OS/2 1.0 >> Biggest downfall, again software support for Devices. > No, its biggest downfall was that every driver had to be loaded in exactly > the correct way and order, otherwise it didn't work and other things broke. Mindlessly silly. > Once someone worked it out and shared it, you were sweet. It was rock solid then. Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland. > As to networking, it did everything (ipx,tcpip,netbeu/netbios) at the > same time when MSWin could manage one or two protocols at best. Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland. > IMO, the other problem was that they didn't support home > users, so it didn't have the unpaid salesforce promoting it. Corse it did. >> WP, what else can you say. The world moved onto GUI's >> and WP was still in DOS Mode, their Windows incantation >> was a complete flop. It was sold more times than used car. > Err, what was a flop? > WP productivity still outperforms MSWord Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland. > WP productivity still outperforms MSWord I consider MS Word an 'anti-productivity' tool. I do most of my stuff in write or 'wordpad' and import it (if required) to dress up as required later. Preferred DOS WS over DOS WP though. Graham > Preferred DOS WS over DOS WP though. About that stage I was still using Spellbinder on CPM. By the time I was able to play with Wordstar, it seemed a step backwards from Spellbinder. > > Preferred DOS WS over DOS WP though. > > About that stage I was still using Spellbinder on CPM. By the time I was > able to play with Wordstar, it seemed a step backwards from Spellbinder. Never met that one. The first WP I used was 'View' on the BBC Model B around 1984. It had the endearing feature of only being able to efit 'forward', so if you wanted to go back and change something, you had to save and open the document all over again. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/03/remembering_the_bbc_micro_1.html Next to that WS was a joy. Graham > > But back in the old days.... > > Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 > > Why is the blue blazes would any sane company have moved from WP or Os/2? > > Both were exceedingly good, solid products. They moved from WP because their customers couldn't open the files. One engineer at a company I worked for refused to use the company standard word processing software, so they told him to switch, or he was fired. Everything he did had to be retyped, because the old DOS 286 computer he used was the only computer that had that program. Finally, the IT department took it and reformatted the hard drive to force him to use the current win 95 networked computer he already had in his office. When he complained, he was told there was no record of that computer in their inventory, and they needed parts to repair a computer on the production floor. Signaturehttp://improve-usenet.org/index.html If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming' sheep. >> > But back in the old days.... >> > Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > They moved from WP because their customers couldn't open the files. Aaah yes, the MS word treadmill where you had to have the latest copy of MS Word because some stupid customer had upgraded. Still didn't get you out of the incompatibility between different MS Word versions. > as One > engineer at a company I worked for refused to use the company standard > word processing software, so they told him to switch, or he was fired. I only ever fell for that line (or variations) once. From then on in, I always answered "okay, I'm off". You should have seen the back pedalling. Never withdrew either. also loved the "naah, can't be arsed doing that, I'm outta here in X days". Sigh, the benefit of putting all your "super" into paying off your home mortgage. > Everything he did had to be retyped, That is pure incompetece by the IT dept (export, import). Too many are power game places rather than company support places. > Aaah yes, the MS word treadmill where you had to have the latest copy of > MS Word because some stupid customer had upgraded. Still didn't get you > out of the incompatibility between different MS Word versions. I always save as rtf (rich text format), smaller files by a mile and just about every WP in the world can read them. Graham > >> > But back in the old days.... > >> > Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I only ever fell for that line (or variations) once. From then on in, I > always answered "okay, I'm off". You should have seen the back pedalling. They ended up laying him off a little later, because of his attitude problems. The last I heard, he is a radio operator on a cruise ship. > Never withdrew either. also loved the "naah, can't be arsed doing that, > I'm outta here in X days". Sigh, the benefit of putting all your "super" [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > That is pure incompetece by the IT dept (export, import). Too many are > power game places rather than company support places. He was using an early version of Wordstar, so all formatting was not only useless, the exported file was full of extra crap. Since it wasn't networked, the only way to export data was to a 5.25" floppy, and that was one of the few computers in the company that had one. The others were all being used with older EPROM programmers on the production floor. No computer on the network had a 5.25" drive, and they let him get away with it for almost three years of not using the networked computer. BTW, there may be errors in my posts for a while. I haven't been able to open my right eye enough to see out of it for almost a month, and the doctors said it will be about three more months before it heals. Signaturehttp://improve-usenet.org/index.html If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming' sheep. >>>>> But back in the old days.... >>>>> Trying to Convince Management to ween of Word Perfect,OS/2 [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > able to open my right eye enough to see out of it for almost a month, > and the doctors said it will be about three more months before it heals. You were warned about w.nking yourself blind, child. > You were warned about w.nking yourself blind, child. I see that you are as ignorant of the human body as you are of electronics. Ask your boyfriend Phil to explain it to you. Signaturehttp://improve-usenet.org/index.html If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming' sheep. >> You were warned about w.nking yourself blind, child. > I see that you are as ignorant of the human body as you are of electronics. Got that SoH bypass on medicare did you child ? > >> You were warned about w.nking yourself blind, child. > > > I see that you are as ignorant of the human body as you are of electronics. > > Got that SoH bypass on medicare did you child ? I'm not on Medicare, moron. Do you ever get anything right? Or are you too busy typing with one hand to even care? Did you ever install that windshield wiper on your monitor so you don't have to keep wiping it off? Signaturehttp://improve-usenet.org/index.html If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming' sheep. > Rod Speed wrote >>> Rod Speed wrote >>>> You were warned about w.nking yourself blind, child. >>> I see that you are as ignorant of the human body as you are of electronics. >> Got that SoH bypass on medicare did you child ? > I'm not on Medicare, moron. Your problem, fuckwit. > Do you ever get anything right? Thanks for that completely superfluous proof of the effectiveness of that SoH bypass, fuckwit. <reams of your peurile sh.t any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs> > > Rod Speed wrote > >>> Rod Speed wrote [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Your problem, fuckwit. Apparently it's your problem, since I have VA medical coverage. > > Do you ever get anything right? > > Thanks for that completely superfluous proof of the effectiveness of that SoH bypass, fuckwit. > > <reams of your peurile sh.t any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs> And yet you're still here? What a load! You always have to prove your ignorance, don't you? You're just another substandard troll. :( Signaturehttp://improve-usenet.org/index.html If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming' sheep. > Rod Speed wrote >>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>> Rod Speed wrote >>>>>> You were warned about w.nking yourself blind, child. >>>>> I see that you are as ignorant of the human body as you are of electronics. >>>> Got that SoH bypass on medicare did you child ? >>> I'm not on Medicare, moron. >> Your problem, fuckwit. > Apparently it's your problem, Nope, where you got your SoH bypass is your problem, fuckwit. > since I have VA medical coverage. Your problem, fuckwit. >>> Do you ever get anything right? >> Thanks for that completely superfluous proof of the effectiveness of that SoH bypass, fuckwit. <reams of your peurile sh.t any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs> > Nope, where you got your SoH bypass is your problem, fuckwit. My sense of humor is fine. I just have a zero tolerance policy for low functioning morons like you and your twin brother Phil. You are both meat popsickles, dead from the neck, up and surrounded by angry flies. Signaturehttp://improve-usenet.org/index.html If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming' sheep. Some terminal fuckwit with a very effect SoH bypass claiming to be Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote just the puerile sh.t any 2 year old could leave for dead. > Some terminal fuckwit with a very effect SoH bypass claiming to be > Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote just the puerile > sh.t any 2 year old could leave for dead. Yawn. Rod is still dumber than his twin brother Phil. Signaturehttp://improve-usenet.org/index.html If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming' sheep. Some terminal fuckwit with a very effect SoH bypass claiming to be Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote just the puerile sh.t any 2 year old could leave for dead. > Mr.T wrote >>> time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming much looser Fantasy. >> Pity there is still FAR more software applications >> available for Windows, than for Unix though. > Lol, you really should start looking around. You in spades. > *nix far outnumber MS offerings these days. Pure fantasy. In spades with the more exotic stuff like PVRs etc. >> Of course if you just want email and office apps, or are prepared to >> write your own programs, then using WinBlows is a waste of money. > Exactly and that describes most office PCs; mail, and word processing. Hardly anyone JUST does that. >> Mr.T wrote > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Hardly anyone JUST does that. You made a series of dodgy claims there woddles , now prove them > > Of course if you just want email and office apps, or are prepared to write > > your own programs, then using WinBlows is a waste of money. > > Exactly and that describes most office PCs; mail, and word processing. That's the point, NOT everyone just wants that. PC's are used for far more these days. MrT. >> > Of course if you just want email and office apps, or are prepared to > write [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > That's the point, NOT everyone just wants that. PC's are used for far more > these days. Okay, i forgotto mention "client" software for some server. Horses for courses. Not every business PC needs to run every piece of software within the business. As a contractor, I just loved those contracts where there was no firm control on who ran what software. "Just how many hours are you prepared to pay me to spend investigating the bugs in a downloaded screen saver that is crashing all the office PCs?" > > > Of course if you just want email and office apps, or are prepared to > > > write your own programs, then using WinBlows is a waste of money. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That's the point, NOT everyone just wants that. PC's are used for far more > these days. There's some good scientific applications like CAD on linux these days and you have save thousands if not tens of thousands of bucks by using them. Graham >> time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming >> much looser > > Pity there is still FAR more software applications available for Windows, > than for Unix though. Actually there is not , unix has been around a long time but if you want a pretty slow gui then winblows wins hands down > Of course if you just want email and office apps, or are prepared to write > your own programs, then using WinBlows is a waste of money. correct > MrT. >>> Just picked up on this very interesting message/thread from: >>> sci.electronics.design [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is becoming > much looser Apart from Printers being the Biggest Issue, older than 3 years will definitely be a problem. But in Biznes you might have Network Faxing Software, Networked Scanners direct to PC Software. Then there's the toys like Cameras,Webcams that some departments might use. I'm sure there are other computer gadgets specifically for Warehouse tracking, shipping and the like would also pose compatibility issues. And some departments you never even thought existed has some special software. And the Good thing (debatable sometimes) about XP, it will run most things back to Win98. Vista can't do that. Multiple Platforms already exist in large companies, and you need rocks in your head to say yes thanks I'll have another. Even Firefox has a Version on Linux and PC, they are very similar but not Identical. >>>> Just picked up on this very interesting message/thread from: >>>> sci.electronics.design [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Apart from Printers being the Biggest Issue, Well, if people purchased printers that worked to standard formats, then there is bugger all problem with printers. > older than 3 years will definitely be a problem. Exactly what is the problem? Linux will handle older software quite easily. > But in Biznes you might have Network Faxing > Software, Networked Scanners direct to PC Software. All doable under Linux. It was actually *nix that did all this first. > Then there's the toys like Cameras,Webcams that some departments might use. Toy are toys. Alwaysa good reason to makeit more difficult tocull un-authorised hardware. > I'm sure > there are other computer gadgets specifically for Warehouse tracking, > shipping and the like would also pose compatibility issues. Err, hint, lots of this crap is already running embedded *nix and is highly unlikely to run Vista anyway. Lets not get carried away with another Y2K hardware replacement bonanxa here. > And some > departments you never even thought existed has some special software. > And the Good thing (debatable sometimes) about XP, it will run most > things back to Win98. Vista can't do that. *nix has wine, and other MS emulation packages. >>>>> Just picked up on this very interesting message/thread from: >>>>> sci.electronics.design [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >>> time will tell but it looks like the woinblows death grip is >>> becoming much looser >> Apart from Printers being the Biggest Issue, > Well, if people purchased printers that worked to standard > formats, then there is bugger all problem with printers. Pity about the real world where the vast bulk of printers arent like that anymore. >> older than 3 years will definitely be a problem. > Exactly what is the problem? > Linux will handle older software quite easily. Nice theory, pity about the real world. >> But in Biznes you might have Network Faxing >> Software, Networked Scanners direct to PC Software. > All doable under Linux. Not with anything like as much choice as with Win. > It was actually *nix that did all this first. Bare faced pig ignorant lie. >> Then there's the toys like Cameras,Webcams that some departments might use. > Toy are toys. Only fools dont have them. > Alwaysa good reason to makeit more difficult tocull un-authorised hardware. More mindless silly stuff. >> I'm sure there are other computer gadgets specifically for Warehouse >> tracking, shipping and the like would also pose compatibility issues. > Err, hint, lots of this crap is already running embedded *nix Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland. > and is highly unlikely to run Vista anyway. Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland. > Lets not get carried away with another Y2K hardware replacement bonanxa here. >> And some departments you never even thought existed has some >> special software. And the Good thing (debatable sometimes) about >> XP, it will run most things back to Win98. Vista can't do that. > *nix has wine, and other MS emulation packages. None of which are anything like the real thing. >>>>>> Just picked up on this very interesting message/thread from: >>>>>> sci.electronics.design [quoted text clipped - 90 lines] > > None of which are anything like the real thing. Which is a good thing due to the added stability >> Well, if people purchased printers that worked to standard >> formats, then there is bugger all problem with printers. > > Pity about the real world where the vast bulk of printers arent like that anymore. Well, there is Maccas and real food too. >>> older than 3 years will definitely be a problem. > >> Exactly what is the problem? >> Linux will handle older software quite easily. > > Nice theory, pity about the real world. Is this the same realworld where I retired at age 50 from implementing such solutions and you had to keep on workng beyond that age? Stick to commenting on what you know Roddles. > Rod Speed wrote >>> Well, if people purchased printers that worked to standard >>> formats, then there is bugger all problem with printers. >> Pity about the real world where the vast bulk of printers arent like that anymore. > Well, there is Maccas and real food too. The printers you are stupid enough to hold your nose about work fine. >>>> older than 3 years will definitely be a problem. >>> Exactly what is the problem? >>> Linux will handle older software quite easily. >> Nice theory, pity about the real world. > Is this the same realworld where I retired at age 50 from implementing > such solutions and you had to keep on workng beyond that age? Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland, child. > Stick to commenting on what you know Roddles. Know a hell of a lot more about it than you do thanks, fuckwit. >>>> Just picked up on this very interesting message/thread from: >>>> sci.electronics.design [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > Software, Networked Scanners direct to PC Software. Then there's the > toys like Cameras,Webcams that some departments might use. wow you mean some graphic hag might be inconvenienced ? to bad so sad . > I'm sure there are other computer gadgets specifically for Warehouse > tracking, shipping and the like would also pose compatibility issues. which ones as so far in my years in the industry I can count the prolems as being fewer than the bsods > And some departments you never even thought existed has some special > software. And the Good thing (debatable sometimes) about XP, it will > run most things back to Win98. Vista can't do that. nix can as well > Multiple Platforms already exist in large companies, and you need > rocks in your head to say yes thanks I'll have another. MM nix and winblows and ? > Even Firefox has a Version on Linux and PC, they are very similar but > not Identical. sigh... <snip> > If your a Corp with 80,000 puters, Installing Linux would be about as > easy as Installing Vista. You will have the same basic problems. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Unless Intel develop Quantum Computers, I think it will be slower > than Vista but it should be more compatible. Yes... Naturally, you know better than Intel does about it's own business. Signature"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion" Steven Weinberg, quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999 > <snip> >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Yes... > Naturally, you know better than Intel does about it's own business. No... I can see the where the problem might be, If I worked for Intel I would still have the same concerns. Somebody would have to convince me there is NO Hardware Compatibility Issues and Users do not need re-training to do the same job they did yesterday. Can you assure me? > Somebody would have to convince me there is NO Hardware Compatibility > Issues and Users do not need re-training to do the same job they > did yesterday. Can you assure me? In the business world there is no shortage of people willing to make such assurances, as long as THEY don't have to pay for their mistakes of course! MrT. >> Somebody would have to convince me there is NO Hardware Compatibility >> Issues and Users do not need re-training to do the same job they [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > MrT. Exactly, so if you the Boss of IT are you willing to put you jewels on the Block and say everything will work out just peachy. > In the business world there is no shortage of people willing to make such > assurances, as long as THEY don't have to pay for their mistakes of course! Lol, as the old Franklins found out. > Somebody would have to convince me there is NO Hardware Compatibility > Issues and Users do not need re-training to do the same job they > did yesterday. Can you assure me? Which OS version has NEVER had that problem? with *nix, so long as the hardware follows common standards, then there is no problem. OTOH, there is crap like nVidia. A wise business has standardised hardware anyway, so it is simply a matter of testing that the standard hardware works, which they will do with every OS version update. OTOH, there is management. Nuff said. > son of a bitch wrote >> Somebody would have to convince me there is NO Hardware >> Compatibility Issues and Users do not need re-training to do >> the same job they did yesterday. Can you assure me? > Which OS version has NEVER had that problem? > with *nix, so long as the hardware follows common standards, Which f.ck all of them bother to do. > then there is no problem. OTOH, there is crap like nVidia. And pathetic excuses for OSs that cant handle the mass market hardware. > A wise business has standardised hardware anyway, Nice theory, pity about the real world. > so it is simply a matter of testing that the standard hardware > works, which they will do with every OS version update. Nice theory, pity about the real world. > OTOH, there is management. Nuff said. Any clown that cant work out how to operate with the current management deserves the bums rush it will most certainly get. |
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