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Electronics Forum / Electronics / November 2007Very Pricey Radio ?
** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ28017 1016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem $ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ?? ....... Phil > ** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ....... Phil Considering its condition, that's mind-boggling ..... Untested. May only be good for spare parts. Case is a bit worn but should polish up ok. Small piece broken off the bottom at the back around one of the mounting screws and a crack by the corresponding screw on the other side. Transfer on the back of the glass dial has half lifted off. Speaker cloth dirty and a bit floppy. Not sure if the knobs are original. A bit dirty inside with some surface rust. Power cord has been snipped off. I wonder how much someone would pay if it worked? Bob > ** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > ....... Phil Yes, does sound hard to believe. Bought by a person with a feedback of 1. So might just be the seller putting in a fake auction to get some "price history" on the product before duping someone for real. Wait and see if it pops up again in few weeks. Dave. : ** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ28017 1016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem : $ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ?? : : ....... Phil You're only cranky because someone beat you to the verge collection that week! TT > ** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe: > > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ28017 1016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > $ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ?? **Cool. There's a couple of those things at the back of my mum's garage. I think I know what I want for Christmas. Trevor Wilson > ** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe: > > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ28017 1016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > $ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ?? > ....... Phil Bizzare? Thought it may, in some way, be rare/valuable - but not if this other reference (and the only one I came across with a quick bit of searching) to a Skyraider radio is anything to go by... http://www.southcom.com.au/~pauledgr/Skyraider.htm Cheers >> ** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe: >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > http://www.southcom.com.au/~pauledgr/Skyraider.htm > Cheers Something very wrong here. One of my hobbies is old radio gear and there is absolutely no way any plastic radio would fetch that price. A tenth of it just possibly but even 1920s gear on wooden baseboards with ebonite panels fetches around half that price at the most, and there are only one or two plastic models that a truly sought after and can command prices of aroung $300-$400. > Something very wrong here. One of my hobbies is old radio gear and there is > absolutely no way any plastic radio would fetch that price. A tenth of it > just possibly but even 1920s gear on wooden baseboards with ebonite panels > fetches around half that price at the most, and there are only one or two > plastic models that a truly sought after and can command prices of aroung > $300-$400. Catalin (a type of early plastic) radios are rare, because most of the cabinets made from Catalin have disintegrated. The survivors bring BIG bucks. If you don't believe me, ask on news:rec.antiques.radio+phono.  SignatureService to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida "Phil Allison" > ** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe: > > http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ28017 1016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > $ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ?? ** The seller ( ecocivic ) is now claiming he got the money yesterday. Click on " cilmery38 " to see the feedback. I see it, but I doaaaannnnnn believe it. ...... Phil > "Phil Allison" > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > ...... Phil I hate it how you can't see who the bidders are once it gets to $300 or whatever it is. All the bidders except the final bidder have been on eBay for years, and have 50+ feedback. So if the seller is putting in fake bids to up the price, he/she may have has been at it for many years now. "Bidder 5" originally put $800 on it, and then upped that to $4250! "Bidder 5" has an 18% bid history with this seller, and "Bidder 6" has 20%. Quite an incestuous little industry happening there in the Collectables > Radio, Phonograph, Phone > Radio group! Hilarious! Dave. > I hate it how you can't see who the bidders are once it gets to $300 > or whatever it is. That is, of course, to "protect" buyers. It is also, I suspect, to "protect" the rest of us from having to view dodgy deeds and shenanigans (or rather, to "protect" us from being able to do anything about it). Remember always, eBay's *only* loyalty is to itself. They couldn't give a flying fire truck about the legitimacy of the deals done on their site. What they *do* care about is the *apparent* legitimacy of deals done on their site... > All the bidders except the final bidder have been on eBay for years, > and have 50+ feedback. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 20%. Quite an incestuous little industry happening there in the > Collectables > Radio, Phonograph, Phone > Radio group! It has been my experience that if one puts together a half-coherent spiel detailing the shenanigans that you've observed, eBay will pull the plug on the seller quicker than you can say "that looks a bit sus'". They won't read it carefully, and they don't particularly care for details, but they will shoot first and ask questions later. Once the plug is pulled it will be up to the dodgy seller to squirm and wriggle his way back into business. Whether or not the seller gets their 3000+ feedback back is all a matter of how committed he is to doing so. > Hilarious! Not so funny for the poor bastard who ends up paying ten times what that radio is worth! GB Signature"Most police misconduct occurs when citizens challenge an individual officer's authority" (Reiss, 1971 c.in Jermier & Berkes 1979) "GB" <gb0807@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote in message > Not so funny for the poor bastard who ends up paying ten times > what that radio is worth! I think we all may carry an opinion on the transaction, however I see no reason to be indignant, there appears to be a lack of fraudulent behaviour, and there has been an offer and acceptance if the deal is to be believed. The radio in this case is not worth your estimation, but the purchaser's. "rodney the f.cking idiot " > "GB" > >> Not so funny for the poor bastard who ends up paying ten times >> what that radio is worth! > > I think ... ** A complete fallacy. > we all may carry an opinion on the transaction, ** Speak only for yourself - you fuckwit, posturing turd. > however I see no reason to be indignant, ** Asinine, self obsessed, ASD f.cked pricks see nothing at all. > there appears to be a lack of fraudulent behaviour, ** Spoken like a blind man grasping an elephant's tail and declaring - ahhh, an elephant is just like a snake. > and there has been an offer and acceptance if the deal is to be believed. ** Not the slightest proof exists of either. > The radio in this case is not worth your estimation, but the purchaser's. ** A brain dead , morally bankrupt pile of sub human garbage would say that. Now wouldn't he ???? ...... Phil > "rodney the f***ing idiot " Pot - Kettle - Toaster - Black - again! <snipped usual assinine abuse> > ...... Phillthy the liar As the Full Moon approaches me thinks Philthy should start taking his meds again! TT "rodney" <pookiethai@NOSPAMiprimus.com.au> wrote in news:4742e505$0$19822 $c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net: > I think we all may carry an opinion on the transaction, however > I see no reason to be indignant, there appears to be a lack > of fraudulent behaviour, and there has been an offer and acceptance > if the deal is to be believed. > The radio in this case is not worth your estimation, but the purchaser's. I think you're missing the point: there is no purchaser. The likely situation here is that the seller and the purchaser are the same person. He shills up the price to a ridiculously high level, offers the item for sale again a week later using the eBay 'sale' as 'evidence' of the item's 'worth' despite that it 'fell through' for reasons beyond his control. GB Signature"Most police misconduct occurs when citizens challenge an individual officer's authority" (Reiss, 1971 c.in Jermier & Berkes 1979) "GB" <gb0807@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote in message > I think you're missing the point: there is no purchaser. The likely > situation here is that the seller and the purchaser are the same [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > beyond his control. > GB No, I took the point GB, but that is speculation. would not the vendor have to pay ebay the fee for the dummy sale in that case? Rod. > "GB" <gb0...@kickindanuts.threefiddy.com> wrote in message > > I think you're missing the point: there is no purchaser. The likely [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > would not the vendor have to pay ebay the fee > for the dummy sale in that case? Yes he does have to pay it (unless he claims the buyer did not pay and files a "dispute", but you can't do this often). But that fee is insignificant if he gets an extra few hundred bucks (or more) the next time it sells to a real sucker. He only has to make an extra profit like that on one sale to pay for lots of other fake sales to "setup" his little vintage radio business over time. Dave. "David L. Jones" <altzone@gmail.com> wrote in message news:edceadf5-f803-430b-958a- > Yes he does have to pay it (unless he claims the buyer did not pay and > files a "dispute", but you can't do this often). But that fee is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > his little vintage radio business over time. > Dave. Cheers, thanks for the clarification Dave. > "rodney" <pookiethai@NOSPAMiprimus.com.au> wrote in news:4742e505$0$19822 > $c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > GB You're both missing the point. You should only bid what YOU reckon it's worth. If you're raising your bid to outbid the opposition then you're not using the system correctly. Place your bid and then look away until the item is sold, don't go back and keep upping the price. If the auction fails because the reserve price is not met then the seller has to review his ideas. Buying at a high price only encourages sellers to sell them at a high price. Stick to your guns. Dorf >> "rodney" <pookiethai@NOSPAMiprimus.com.au> wrote in >> news:4742e505$0$19822 $c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > You're both missing the point. You should only bid what YOU reckon > it's worth. Haven't missed a thing. See "The Winners Curse". Read up on the psychology of auction situations. The practice of shilling up the item's 'value' is a very effective means for influencing the next mug punter's view of what the item is worth. > If you're raising your bid to outbid the opposition then > you're not using the system correctly. Maybe so. Fact remains, almost all punters are 'using the system incorrectly'. GB -- .sig >> "rodney" <pookiethai@NOSPAMiprimus.com.au> wrote in news:4742e505$0$19822 >> $c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Dorf You really don't have any bloody idea, do you. The idea is to out-bid the opposition, that's why it's called an Auction. but if you want to play silly buggers, that's your choice bassett >> I hate it how you can't see who the bidders are once it gets to $300 >> or whatever it is. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > GB And no doubt posters have noticed the infuriating multiple "hits" whenever *anything* is asked on Google. I always put eBay in the "without" box to avoid this tiresome rubbish. > "Phil Allison" >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > ...... Phil Don't worry Phil. Sooner or later there will be a similar over-priced market for second-hand vintage and art-deco toasters. With all your "fix it" expertise in this area, you could make a killing so to say. :p This has to be false bids! I would believe 4300 pennies at the most! (US ones) I had one similar to that back in the 60's. It was nothing special, and it was not the best performer. I must admit... I am getting old! SignatureJANA _____ ** This recent eBay sale in Sydney is hard to believe: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Sky-Raider-light-blue-bakelite-valve-radio_W0QQitemZ28017 1016722QQihZ018QQcategoryZ933QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem $ 4300 for a 1950s, plastic case, non working valve radio ?? ....... Phil |
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