I've got an old UPS with a stuffed 12V battery. Is there any reason I
couldn't discard the battery and hook up a cigarette lighter plug to it and
use it as an inverter?
Thanks,
Michael
Mike - 25 Mar 2007 04:39 GMT
> I've got an old UPS with a stuffed 12V battery. Is there any reason I
> couldn't discard the battery and hook up a cigarette lighter plug to it and
> use it as an inverter?
Alot of the cheaper UPSs don't have a high duty cycle, they count on the
fact that the battery will go dead within X minutes and design the UPS to
survive X+5 minutes (for example).
If your UPS has the option of adding battery packs then it should be fine
(and probably also too big to keep in your car). If it has a fan then it
might be OK. If its a good brand or you add a fan then its worth a shot.
Of course all of that only really applies if your putting a fairly high
load on it, if you just want to run a fluro light or an FM radio you
shouldn't be pulling enough power for it to even warm up.
-- Michael Heydon
atec 77 - 25 Mar 2007 04:44 GMT
> I've got an old UPS with a stuffed 12V battery. Is there any reason I
> couldn't discard the battery and hook up a cigarette lighter plug to it and
> use it as an inverter?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
Depending on the model it may need the battery for loading and proper
function
quandong nut - 25 Mar 2007 09:39 GMT
>I've got an old UPS with a stuffed 12V battery. Is there any reason I
>couldn't discard the battery and hook up a cigarette lighter plug to it and
>use it as an inverter?
Apart from the duty cycle consideration, it shoud be fine. I use one to run my
Weller iron in the field. The only downside is the ferkin annoying beeping
because it's upset at having no mains input. (The beeper is ferkin hard to get
at to disable elegantly).
Be aware that they DO pull a decent bit of current @12V and cig-lighter outlets
often provide poor contact.
ian field - 25 Mar 2007 17:16 GMT
> I've got an old UPS with a stuffed 12V battery. Is there any reason I
> couldn't discard the battery and hook up a cigarette lighter plug to it
> and use it as an inverter?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
The one I tried to do that with had a 'safety feature' that inhibited the
inverter unless the mains had been supplied and then cut off, the solution
to that was to make a blocking oscillator with the centre-tapped secondary
of the small mains in transformer and power the BO via a push button to fool
the control circuit into thinking mains was supplied and just failed.
Michael C - 29 Mar 2007 01:06 GMT
> The one I tried to do that with had a 'safety feature' that inhibited the
> inverter unless the mains had been supplied and then cut off, the solution
> to that was to make a blocking oscillator with the centre-tapped secondary
> of the small mains in transformer and power the BO via a push button to
> fool the control circuit into thinking mains was supplied and just failed.
Mine has a battery start button which I presume does what you've described.
Anyway, thanks for all the replies everyone, I found the battery for it was
only $20 at jaycar and so have decided to use it as a UPS and buy an cheap
inverter if I need it. Normally I like to hack something together even if it
costs more and doesn't work as well but decided to be sensible for once :-)
Michael
ian field - 29 Mar 2007 15:16 GMT
>> The one I tried to do that with had a 'safety feature' that inhibited the
>> inverter unless the mains had been supplied and then cut off, the
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> something together even if it costs more and doesn't work as well but
> decided to be sensible for once :-)
One of those "battery start buttons" would have been very handy on mine, I
had to hack the circuit and figure a way to start the UPS remote from any
mains supply.
My motorcycle had a badly designed lock which got road grit in the keyhole,
so one morning I went to get the bike out and couldn't unlock it. This meant
using the angle-grinder in the garage where there's no mains supply, while
my purpose was legitimate it does hint at why UK supplied UPSs have this
inhibit.