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AJS - 12 Mar 2006 17:55 GMT

I'm after the brightest 20W 12V MR16 bulb for a project. Something around
the 20degree mark. The best I could find was a Phillips part number BUT not
available locally. I've tried all the specialist S.A. lighting places I can
find with no luck. If anyone knows of a specific product OR suppler in Aust
that might be able to help please provide details.

AJS

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Rob - 13 Mar 2006 12:40 GMT

> I'm after the brightest 20W 12V MR16 bulb for a project. Something around
> the 20degree mark. The best I could find was a Phillips part number BUT not
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>
> AJS

Tried these guys - it's usually best to visit their counter in person.

http://www.lampreplacements.com.au/

Would a luxeon LED suit your application?

rob

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Rob - 13 Mar 2006 12:44 GMT

> it's usually best to visit their counter in person.

Doh - unless you live in SA!

Looks like stores are in WA/Vic/NSW/QLD. I imagine they'd still be
interested in swapping your cash for their goods via phone/email.
rob

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AJS - 13 Mar 2006 15:41 GMT

> Would a luxeon LED suit your application?

Don't know. Needs to be around the 15-20 watt min or equivalent and last
time I looked none of the current LED's offered that much light and it would
be prohibitive to use that many LED's.. Love to go LED but....

AJS

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Phil Allison - 13 Mar 2006 22:37 GMT

"AJS"

>> Would a luxeon LED suit your application?
>
> Don't know. Needs to be around the 15-20 watt min or equivalent and last
> time I looked none of the current LED's offered that much light and it
> would be prohibitive to use that many LED's.. Love to go LED but....

** What is so terribly wrong with a 12 volt " PAR36 " pinspot lamp ??

........ Phil

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AJS - 14 Mar 2006 05:26 GMT

> ** What is so terribly wrong with a 12 volt " PAR36 " pinspot lamp ??

Not very bright, fragile and a bit larger than I want. If you can point me
towards a specific product or part number that is brighter than the
equivalent MR16 then I might take an interest and see how long they last in
the application. Obviously I want something with a reasonable short
filament.

AJS

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Phil Allison - 14 Mar 2006 06:13 GMT

"AJS"

>> ** What is so terribly wrong with a 12 volt " PAR36 " pinspot lamp ??
>
> Not very bright, fragile and a bit larger than I want.

** I think your first two claims are false.

> If you can point me towards a specific product or part number that is
> brighter than the equivalent MR16 then I might take an interest and see
> how long they last in the application.

** Here is a 12volt , 36 watt 2000 hr, very narrow spot halogen version of
the PAR36.

http://www.1000bulbs.com/product.php?product=1096

Many others exist too - some with 67,000 candlepower !!!

You will have to modify your very strict requirements.

........ Phil

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AJS - 14 Mar 2006 07:40 GMT

> ** I think your first two claims are false.

You think or you know? Find me one that's as efficient as the MR16's (I'm
not talking about the junk ones) and I will consider them. I suppose I can
just carry a spare or two and not worry to much about the shorter life.

> ** Here is a 12volt , 36 watt 2000 hr, very narrow spot halogen version
> of the PAR36.

I need around the 20Watt mark. If I was after 35+watts then I wouldn't have
a problem with getting a MR16 product.
Any specs on this unit? As you should know, there is a HUGE difference in
output between products with the same specs.
So without a part number or specs I have no way of knowing if that product
is junk or offers something comparable to a MR16 Unit.

> http://www.1000bulbs.com/product.php?product=1096

Local supplier? If I wanted to import them I wouldn't have a problem getting
what I am after. I was hoping to find a local supplier which is why I made a
point of it in my post.......

> Many others exist too - some with 67,000 candlepower !!!

@20Watt? Got a link? I've got some 100000 candlepower spotlights here. If
only they were 20 watt.....

> You will have to modify your very strict requirements.

Why? Because you are unable to find something that meets my criteria? The
products are out there, I'm looking for a local supplier. Since I can't find
one here I was asking if anyone knew some decent Aust based ones OR knew of
other products that fit my criteria.

AJS

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Phil Allison - 14 Mar 2006 07:51 GMT

"AJS"

>> ** I think your first two claims are false.
>
> You think or you know?

** It is my opinion - after doing some research.

> Find me one that's as efficient as the MR16's

** Err - define " efficient" ??

>> ** Here is a 12volt , 36 watt 2000 hr, very narrow spot halogen version
>> of the PAR36.
>
> I need around the 20Watt mark.

** Be nice if you explained what you power source is and why the strict
limit.

> Any specs on this unit?

** I supplied a URL ?????

> As you should know, there is a HUGE difference in output between products
> with the same specs.

** Really - even when the beam angle, colour temp and candlepower are all
the same ??

> So without a part number or specs I have no way of knowing if that product
> is junk or offers something comparable to a MR16 Unit.

** I supplied a URL ?????

Oh look ee - here it is !!

Little sucker nearly ran away !!!!

>> http://www.1000bulbs.com/product.php?product=1096
>
> Local supplier?

** I suspect you can source them here - have you tried?

> If I wanted to import them I wouldn't have a problem getting what I am
> after. I was hoping to find a local supplier which is why I made a point
> of it in my post.......

** Lets get over the PAR36, halogen or standard and 36 watt hurdles
rst - eh ???

>> Many others exist too - some with 67,000 candlepower !!!
>
> @20Watt? Got a link?

** I supplied a URL ?????

> I've got some 100000 candlepower spotlights here. If only they were 20
> watt.....

** You still need to say what life span you must have.

>> You will have to modify your very strict requirements.
>
> Why?

** Because the laws of physics seem to be agin you.

> Because you are unable to find something that meets my criteria?

** Dunno what all your criteria are - yet.

> The products are out there, I'm looking for a local supplier. Since I
> can't find one here I was asking if anyone knew some decent Aust based
> ones OR knew of other products that fit my criteria.

** Dunno what all your criteria are - yet.

Maybe you care to be more co-operative with folk trying to help you out for
nothing ?

Just a suggestion.

........ Phil

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Phil Allison - 14 Mar 2006 06:47 GMT

"AJS"

>> ** What is so terribly wrong with a 12 volt " PAR36 " pinspot lamp ??

** Try SSPA in Sydney on 9584 9999.

Got large stocks of PAR36 pin spots and MR16 lamps.

........ Phil

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AJS - 14 Mar 2006 07:40 GMT

> ** Try SSPA in Sydney on 9584 9999.
>
> Got large stocks of PAR36 pin spots and MR16 lamps.

thanks :)

AJS

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two bob - 29 Mar 2006 11:57 GMT

Do you know what a Luxeon LED is? (apart from expensive)